Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Trump’s Future Depends on His Immigration Crackdown


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Has immigration become the new litmus test for the Republican Party? In this episode, Ross talks to Matthew Continetti, the author of “The Right: The Hundred-Year War for American Conservatism,” about the party’s shifting coalition, the defining role of immigration and how today’s right echoes its past.

  • 01:50 - What the Elon experiment (and fallout) tells us about the Republican Party
  • 06:55 - Is there a tech right beyond DOGE?
  • 10:09 - Is the “new right” really all that new?
  • 18:16 - Where Trump’s agenda fits within the larger conservative story
  • 25:16 - “Immigration is the biggest issue of our time”
  • 28:39 - How border control will define conservatism around the world
  • 34:05 - Is Silicon Valley out of step with Trump's immigration crackdown?
  • 39:43 - Will Trump's ideas outlast Trump?

(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) 

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