Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Two Books That Explain This Political Moment

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In this special year-end conversation, Carlos and his columnist colleague Pamela Paul each share one book that can help us understand and define our current moment.

(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) 

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