Ultra running has changed dramatically over the past few decades, but Dean Karnazes still believes the heart of the sport is simple. In this episode, Josh sits down with one of ultra running’s most recognizable figures to talk about the philosophy that’s guided him through decades of running: at the end of the day, it’s still just a pair of shoes and a place to run.

Dean reflects on the impact running has had on his life and the lives of countless runners he’s inspired through his books, stories, and global advocacy for the sport. The conversation wanders through his unforgettable appearances on Conan O’Brien, David Letterman, and the ESPYs, while also exploring how ultra running has evolved—and why its rapid growth is ultimately a good thing for everyone who laces up.

For runners who believe the simplest act—putting one foot in front of the other—can change everything.

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Topics / Timestamps

1. 00:00 The Roots of an Ultra Runner
2. 03:15 Conan O'brien appearance
3. 05:02 Western States
4. 09:34 Dean's Best WSER Finish
5. 11:47 David Letterman appearance
6. 16:43 The Next Quest: From Badwater to Everest
7. 22:45 Promoting Sports Tourism in Greece
8. 29:16 ESPY Award
9. 31:59 Badwater: A Test of Endurance
10. 33:57 The Dirtbag Spirit in Ultra Running
11. 35:58 The Essence of Running and Its Impact

Presented by Kiprun.

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