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  • How a new brand character challenged Whisky conventions to help The Woodsman double market share

    Today I'm speaking with Whyte and Mackay Marketing Director Janice McIntosh and Mr President (their agency) CCO Jon Gledstone about the launch of their new campaign for The Woodsman brand. The "Well Earned" campaign score a whopping 4.8 stars on the System1 test and saw the launch of a brand character, Barry the Beaver, in a move that defies convention in the traditional Whisky category. From internal battles to hurdles presented by the regulators, both Whyte and Mackay and Mr President had to overcome some barriers to bring this campaign to life.


    Timestamps
    00:00 - Intro
    01:01 - Inventing The Woodsman
    01:42 - Creating a brand dominated by big players
    04:00 - Standing out in a product dominated category
    05:46 - Balancing demand and supply
    06:31 - Availablity of the brand
    07:11 - Overcoming perception barriers
    09:15 - Coming up with the “Well Earned” positioning
    13:06 - How to sell in breaking convention
    16:00 - How the agency helped sell the idea
    18:29 - Creating a new character
    20:02 - Characters vs Celebrities
    21:07 - Using humour in a traditional category
    23:23 - Creating a physical barry the beaver
    24:18 - The importance of craft in the ad
    26:07 - Staying on the right side of regulations
    28:23 - A good client agency relationship
    30:09 - How important is testing and data to back up creative decisions
    31:53 - The importance of mental and physical availability
    33:32 - The results
    35:01 - What’s next for the brand?

    39 min
  • Rising from the ashes: the inspirational story of overcoming tragedy with Bozoma Saint John (former Netflix CMO)

    Bozoma Saint John is a Hall of Fame Inducted Marketing Executive, Entrepreneur and Author of her memoir, The Urgent Life. Her career has included roles as the Global CMO of Netflix, CMO of Endeavor, CBO of Uber, Head of Marketing of Apple Music & iTunes and Head of Music and Entertainment Marketing at PepsiCo.

    Follow Boz

    • Instagram
    • LinkedIn
    • Twitter/X
    • Her book - This Urgent Life

    Follow Jon

    • Jon's LinkedIn
    • Jon's Twitter
    • Watch the Uncensored CMO on YouTube

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Start
    01:34 - Why Boz wrote such an emotional book
    05:02 - The reception to the book
    08:32 - Encountering Spike Lee
    13:32 - Making decisions based on intuition
    16:05 - Working for founder led brands
    20:36 - Leading marketing at large organisations
    23:55 - Managing the relationship with the CEO and CFO
    28:42 - Hire Boz, Get Boz - how to have confidence in yourself
    31:57 - Why you shouldn’t “play the game”
    33:06 - Dawn always comes; dealing with grief
    41:09 - Making the choice to change your life
    45:11 - From corporate jobs to entrepreneur
    48:24 - What’s next for Boz?

    55 min
  • The secrets to Super Bowl success with Michelob ULTRA's Ricardo Marques

    Today we’re diving deep into the high-stakes world of Super Bowl advertising with a very special guest—Ricardo Marques, the VP of Marketing for Michelob ULTRA. Ricardo, a veteran with 19 years at AB Inbev and the marketing maestro behind Michelob ULTRA's growth. He is here to share his playbook on how to score big during the most anticipated advertising event on American television.


    In this episode we get an exclusive look at how Michelob ULTRA prepares for the Super Bowl. Ricardo breaks down the importance of the Super Bowl as a platform, not just for audience reach but for creating conversations and excitement around the brand.


    But is Super Bowl advertising really worth the investment? Ricardo weighs in on the multifaceted approach to this question, assessing the creative, the conversion, and the long game of brand relevance. Key performance indicators, the intricate balance of novelty versus authenticity, and the seismic impact of this year's Super Bowl on Michelob ULTRA's growth trajectory are all on the table.

    Timestamps

    • 00:00 - Intro
    • 00:55 - Why the Super Bowl is such a landmark event for advertisers
    • 03:07 - Ricardo’s background
    • 03:56 - The best advertisers in Super Bowl history
    • 05:05 - Michelob’s Super Bowl history
    • 06:03 - Launch before game day, or on the day?
    • 07:23 - Michelob’s Ad for 2024
    • 10:04 - Is a Super Bowl ad worth $7m?
    • 11:09 - KPIs for a successful Super Bowl Ad
    • 11:48 - How involved are distributors in the process
    • 12:50 - The 2024 Michelob ULTRA Super Bowl Ad with Leo Messi
    • 16:14 - The briefing process for a Super Bowl ad
    • 17:25 - Brand positioning for a more premium beer
    • 18:39 - The core ingredients for a successful ad
    • 21:02 - The impact of celebrities in ads
    • 22:46 - Advice for people making their first big budget campaign
    • 27:26 - Selling in the campaign internally
    • 28:52 - Tying campaigns into global events
    • 31:25 - Using AI in activations
    • 33:57 - McEnroe vs McEnroe
    • 36:35 - Lap Against the Legends
    • 38:14 - Blind man commentating on NBA game
    • 41:45 - How has the brand performed from the campaigns
    • 42:38 - The secret to sustained success as a marketer
    • 47:29 - Who is Ricardo supporting for the Super Bowl?
    50 min
  • The flamingo effect: how Very made their retail brand sparkle - Jessica Myers Very CMO

    Today we're joined by Jessica Myers, CMO of The Very Group. Previously Jess was CMO at Metro Bank and has since made the transition to the highly competitive retail market. At Very, she has overseen the launch of a brand new fluent device; the pink flamingoes. The campaign featuring the new characters scored a whopping 5.7 stars on the System1 scoring platform, Test Your Ad, amongst the very best ads made this year.

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro
    00:52 - Jess’ background
    06:11 - Marketing academy fellowship
    07:13 - From big brand to challenger brand
    10:46 - The modern marketer
    11:57 - From finance to retail
    15:31 - Dealing with the challenges of joining a new business
    18:03 - Nailing positioning
    22:09 - Doing long term marketing in retail
    23:39 - Agency selection process for Very
    27:22 - Understanding your customer
    31:50 - The power of testing creative
    36:36 - The increasing standard of advertising
    38:28 - Creating a new fluent device - The Flamingoes
    43:20 - The future of the brand
    46:08 - Jess’ advice to aspiring marketers

    50 min
  • Creating the Metaverse, lessons from Google Glass and the Whitehouse - Dave Kaufman, Meta

    Dave Kaufman is responsible for the marketing for one of the biggest tech bets of all time; the Metaverse. As Director of Global Marketing for VR and the Metaverse for Meta (formerly Facebook), it's fair to say Dave has a pretty sizeable task on his hands. He's no stranger to large marketing bets, having been on the marketing team for Google Glass, which ultimately failed. But sandwiched in-between working for Google and Meta, Dave worked for Obama's Whitehouse for the United States Digital Service.

    In this episode we discuss if the US is behind the UK in terms of marketing thinkers, why marketing education is overlooked, why Google Glass failed and what the future holds in terms of the Metaverse.

    Links

    • Dave's LinkedIn
    • Dave's viral LinkedIn article
    • Jon's LinkedIn
    • Jon's Twitter
    • Watch the Uncensored CMO on YouTube

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro
    00:58 - Dave’s favourite episodes of Uncensored CMO
    01:50 - Elon vs Mark in a fight
    02:31 - US vs UK marketing
    03:57 - How to not be full of sh*t in marketing
    09:16 - Was Google Glass a failure?
    15:50 - Launching the Meta X Rayban Sunglasses
    20:28 - Explaining the metaverse
    24:02 - How to quantify the success of the metaverse
    26:29 - When will the metaverse become mainstream?
    30:58 - Making virtual reality more familiar
    32:28 - Does tech have a marketing problem?
    38:20 - Working for founders
    46:39 - Working at President Obama’s Whitehouse
    53:35 - Working with low budgets
    56:47 - Dave’s bets for 2024

    1 hr
  • A B2B marketing masterclass with PwC's Global CMO, Antonia Wade

    Today I'm joined by Antonia Wade, Global CMO at PwC and Author of The B2B Buyer Journey. This episode is a true B2B masterclass. We break down the importance of brand, reputation and relationships vs what people traditionally think is important in B2B. We also break down each stage of the marketing funnel to find out how best to reach them at every point in the buyer journey.

    Links

    • Antonia's LinkedIn
    • Antonia's Book
    • Jon's LinkedIn
    • Jon's Twitter
    • Watch the Uncensored CMO on YouTube

    Timestamps

    • 00:00:00 - Intro
    • 00:01:10 - Antonia’s background
    • 00:06:01 - How does B2B and B2C differ?
    • 00:09:25 - How to reach B2B customers
    • 00:11:52 - Building B2B relationships
    • 00:17:30 - The importance of people in B2B
    • 00:20:53 - Why brand and reputation are so important
    • 00:24:43 - Why having an online presence matters
    • 00:29:39 - Marketing from cost centre to profit centre
    • 00:34:14 - Marketing at different stages of the buyer journey
    • 00:39:54 - Why people think B2B is boring
    • 00:46:30 - Why purpose has a bigger role in B2B
    • 00:48:38 - Stage 1: Reaching Horizon Scanners
    • 00:51:41 - Stage 2: Reaching Explorers
    • 00:55:18 - Stage 3: Reaching Hunters
    • 00:57:39 - Stage 4: Capturing the Active Buyer
    • 00:59:15 - Stage 5: Marketing post-purchase
    • 01:01:18 - How will AI transform B2B marketing
    1 hr 6 min
  • Les & Sarah’s big review of the year

    One of the most popular episodes of all time was my first with Sarah Carter and Les Binet, so I'm bringing them back to do a review of 2023. We talk about what makes Les cry and if AI is going to take over our jobs.

    Links

    • Jon's LinkedIn
    • Jon's Twitter
    • Watch the Uncensored CMO on YouTube

    Timestamps

    • 00:00:00 - Intro
    • 00:01:05 - Les’ favourite ads of 2023
    • 00:04:45 - Sarah’s favourite Christmas ads
    • 00:07:15 - Wear out
    • 00:12:30 - Why familiarity breeds contentment
    • 00:17:42 - Have we rediscovered homour in 2023?
    • 00:19:47 - The role of purpose in advertising
    • 00:29:17 - Diversity and representation
    • 00:34:53 - Kevin the carrot and characters
    • 00:41:52 - Fluent devices and consistency
    • 00:49:01 - Why do John Lewis run christmas ads every year
    • 00:50:40 - How did the first ad to ever air score?
    • 00:52:51 - The highest performing advertising categories
    • 00:55:04 - Lowest performing advertising categories
    • 01:00:12 - Outperforming your category
    • 01:03:08 - US Superbowl vs UK Christmas
    • 01:04:02 - Les and Sarah’s thoughts on AI
    • 01:14:03 - How reliable is ESOV
    • 01:15:52 - MMM Models
    • 01:19:32 - The best performing Adam and Eve ad
    • 01:21:42 - Predictions for 2024


    1 hr 26 min
  • How confused.com challenged the meerkats on smaller budgets - Sam Day

    Now in this episode, we're talking about one of the most competitive markets in the world - insurance comparison. Anyone who's followed this market will know just how intense it is. And how do you build a brand when you don't have a product yourself, but you're selling someone else's product? Well, it's one of those situations where marketing is all important and advertising can make all the difference to your success.

    I'm catching up with Sam Day, who's been the CMO of confused.com, for the past 6 years, who successfully challenged this market and taken it from 4th to 2nd place on very limited budgets. So I want to find out from Sam the secret behind the success of the campaigns that he's run over the last few years, how he's transformed their business and what his plans are for the future.

    Links

    • Jon's LinkedIn
    • Jon's Twitter
    • Watch the Uncensored CMO on YouTube

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro
    03:53 - Sam’s advice to a young marketer
    06:27 - Sam’s greatest failure
    08:44 - Management and leadership advice
    12:27 - The secret to an extended CMO tenure
    19:41 - Getting c-suite buy in with data
    22:50 - Consistency
    24:26 - Marketing when you don’t have a product
    26:01 - Brand vs price
    28:43 - Why name the brand after the problem (confused.com)
    31:24 - Branding against one of the best branded characters of all time
    34:02 - Why there’s no silver bullet for success
    37:02 - Spontaneous awareness - how to win an effie
    39:50 - Selecting an agency
    42:01 - Great examples of populous advertising
    44:14 - How agencies should pitch to CMOs
    49:39 - What’s next for Sam Day

    53 min
  • Reloaded: How to be a successful challenger - Adam Morgan (2020)

    Today I'm revisiting episode 3, with Adam Morgan, founder of eatbigfish and author of Eating The Big Fish, The Pirate Inside and A Beautiful Constraint to find out what it takes to become a successful challenger. Adam shares his tips for creating a challenger brand, transforming your culture and the power of constraints to driving innovation.


    In this episode:

    • Why being No.2 is better
    • How he turned the anger of his project being shelved into a career-defining opportunity
    • Being turned down by Phil Knight and where the idea of a Challenger brand came from
    • The importance of over-commitment and being obsessed with execution
    • How Tony’s Chocolonely have become a truly challenger brand
    • How to be a pirate in the navy without getting fired
    • What you can learn from a catwalk show and how constraints can turn into your greatest advantage
    • The curse of data and how it leads us to a decline in creativity
    • The furtile zero and what to do with no budget
    • Adam shares his worst career moment
    • Why the meeting is never really the meeting and why the Japanese fall asleep in meetings
    • The one thing Adam has never told anyone before

    Follow me:

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    Contact me:

    Adam Morgan:

    • Twitter | @eatbigfish
    • www.eatbigfish.com
    • Eating The Big Fish
    • The Pirate Inside
    • A Beautiful Constraint
    57 min
  • Top 10 marketing and behavioural science insights with Nudge host, Phill Agnew

    Today I'm joined by Phill Agnew, senior product marketer at Buffer and host of Nudge, the only podcast dedicated to consumer psychology, and the other podcast that regularly hits the top spot of the UK marketing charts. In this episode we share 5 behavioural science "nudges" and 5 marketing lessons that we've taken from our respective podcasts and careers.

    Links

    • Nudge podcast
    • Jon's LinkedIn
    • Jon's Twitter
    • Phill's LinkedIn
    • Phill's Twitter

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro
    01:19 - How did Phill get into podcasting
    04:03 - Bonus Nudge - The Halo Effect
    06:29 - Nudge 5 - The Labour Illusion
    09:40 - Marketing Lesson 5 - The Power of Getting Fired
    13:25 - Nudge 4 - The Pratfall Effect
    19:26 - Marketing Lesson 4 - The Power of Purpose
    24:49 - Nudge 3 - The Curiosity Gap
    30:03 - Marketing Lesson 3 - Be Distinctive
    35:26 - Nudge 2 - Social Proof
    41:14 - Marketing Lesson 2 - The Power of Creativity
    45:10 - Nudge 1 - Fresh Start Date
    48:59 - Marketing Lesson 1 - The Power of Consistency

    1 hr 3 min

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