What happens when your deep longing to love and be loved gets tangled up with your need to be needed?

In this week’s episode of Typology, Anthony and I sit down with the wonderful Emily Zeller—a licensed marriage and family therapist, certified Enneagram practitioner, and a one-to-one Enneagram Two. Emily brings such honesty and heart as we talk about desire, boundaries, and the tender places in all of us that crave connection.

As we explore the unique energy of the Enneagram Two and unpack the three subtypes—self-preservation, social, and one-to-one—we ask questions we can all sit with: When have you confused being loved with being needed in your own relationships? What would it look like to offer love without trying to earn it in return?

If you’ve ever wrestled with seeking validation, struggled to set boundaries, or simply wanted to understand yourself or a loved one better, you’re going to feel right at home in this conversation. This episode isn’t just for Twos—it’s for anyone longing to grow in self-awareness and bring more compassion and balance to their relationships.

🎧 Listen in and join us as we reflect, laugh, and get real about what it means to be human. And as you listen, consider: where in your life is love inviting you to simply rest and receive?

Follow Emily on Instagram: @iamemilyzeller Learn more at: zellertherapy.com

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