Borderlands Trail (+ Ultra) Running

UTMB: Great But Facing Critical Challenges | Bad Runners Take


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Josh + Brian welcome Sam Lohse to bring a new perspective to today's Bad Runners Take.

In this episode we answer two questions and take issue.

  1. What should America ultra trail races adopt from UTMB?
  2. What shoudl UTMB adopt from America?
  3. What do we think of UTMB's new climate fees introduced in 2026?

We also get a call on the Hyperlyte Hotline about running and shaving body hair.

  • 00:00 Introduction to Bad Runners Take
  • 02:34 UTMB vs. American Ultra Running: A Comparative Discussion
  • 07:40 The Dirtbag Culture in Ultra Running
  • 15:23 What UTMB Can Learn from American Races
  • 22:19 Environmental Concerns and the Future of UTMB
  • 24:25 Carbon Offsetting in Sports Events
  • 27:27 Critique of Greenwashing and Corporate Responsibility
  • 31:25 The Role of Individual Responsibility in Climate Action
  • 36:30 The Need for Systemic Change in Environmental Policies
  • 37:23 Celebrating the Spirit of Trail Running

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