Kaitlyn’s friend, licensed marriage and family therapist, and now-author Vienna Pharaon AKA @mindfulmft is back on the pod to continue our lil mental health journey. Yes, Kaitlyn, Vinos, and everyone out there … we are all on this (sometimes dysfunctional) healing path together! Vienna explains how her own origins and childhood wounds led her to a career in therapy and more recently, to writing her new book, The Origins of You. Her book will help readers of all backgrounds identify wounds from their families of origin to ultimately heal, rewire, and improve themselves and their relationships. As Kaitlyn continues her own post-retreat healing journey, she opens up about noticing small shifts in her everyday patterns and ways of thinking, and continues to ask the questions that we all wonder: Is it ever the case that ignorance is bliss? Does time heal all wounds? And, what does healing actually look like? Let’s grow together, Vino fam! 

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