Max and Donatienne discuss Ursula von der Leyen’s bid for a second term as European Commission President and Dutch PM Mark Rutte vying to succeed Jens Stoltenberg as NATO Secretary General. Finally, Max and Donatienne are joined by Ilaria Mazzocco, senior fellow with the Trustee Chair in Chinese Business and Economics at CSIS, for a conversation on growing European dependencies on China for climate technologies and China's EV export boom. 

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Russian Roulette | CSIS Podcasts 

Green Industrial Policy: A Holistic Approach 

Balancing Act: Managing European Dependencies on China for Climate Technologies 

Electric Shock: Interpreting China’s Electric Vehicle Export Boom