TS Madison and THE Wayne Brady meet for the first time in person and the vibes are as immaculate as Wayne’s outfit (by the way, full episodes are now on YouTube too for our visual learners). Wayne TALKS HIS SHIT like the 5-time Emmy Award winner that he IS — and proceeds to explain the concept of “Outlaws” better than we ever could!

They get into it all: what pansexuality means to Wayne, growing up Caribbean American and seemingly too Black for the white folks but not 'Black enough' for Hollywood, the way in which him and Maddie each turned jokes into passports, and that time Whitney Houston was booed at the Soul Train Awards. Also, they reflect on the feeling of being overlooked by the very institutions that are supposed to celebrate you (NAACP, BET, Essence, Atlanta Pride… yes, we’re naming names). Maddie drops a monologue on surviving the system by monetizing confusion, and Wayne recounts his absolutely legendary audition for "Snakes on a Plane." At one point, TS Madison auditions to play Audrey II from "Little Shop of Horrors" and we think we may need to start a campaign to make this happen for real?!

Wayne and Maddie share a kindred connection – and we wish we could've kept this episode rolling for another hour. We need more! A buddy comedy? A musical? Wayne AND Maddie in "Little Shop" together?!

Maddie Mob, you're in for an hour of real talk and revelations. How are y'all liking the show so far? Who are your dream guests? Are you following us on social? Have you reviewed/subscribed/etc. to all the things? Let’s lock in y’all – this podcast is just getting started!

"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming. 

Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

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