Our guest on the show today says she was not cut-out for college. She hated every minute of it until she eventually dropped out and pursued her dream of merging her love for health and wellness with her then-new interest in digital marketing. Today, Angie Lee knows that this was the only path for her since she always knew she was a businesswoman rather than a dietician—which is what she studied for. Her podcast has millions of downloads and she has one of the best personal development events for female entrepreneurs called Pays to Be Brave. In this episode, she talks to listeners about hard work and consistency because there is no overnight success.

Our guest on the show today says she was not cut-out for college. She hated every minute of it until she eventually dropped out and pursued her dream of merging her love for health and wellness with her then-new interest in digital marketing. Today, Angie Lee knows that this was the only path for her since she always knew she was a businesswoman rather than a dietician—which is what she studied for. Her podcast has millions of downloads and she has one of the best personal development events for female entrepreneurs called Pays to Be Brave. In this episode, she talks to listeners about hard work and consistency because there is no overnight success.

For anyone who is into direct sales or is interested in exploring this option, the episode we had with Chris Harder is a must-listen. We speak to him about the benefits of this business model, and he shares how he and his wife have maintained direct sales as part of the income stream through the years, despite the many other sources of income they have. Chris talks about the difference between a personal brand and a media brand and how this distinction will help you to understand what you want to achieve with your podcast for example. We all tend to think that having many followers on social media is the key to success, but as you'll hear from Chris, you don't need a million followers to make a million bucks—sometimes you just need a thousand of the right followers.

For anyone who is into direct sales or is interested in exploring this option, the episode we had with Chris Harder is a must-listen. We speak to him about the benefits of this business model, and he shares how he and his wife have maintained direct sales as part of the income stream through the years, despite the many other sources of income they have. Chris talks about the difference between a personal brand and a media brand and how this distinction will help you to understand what you want to achieve with your podcast for example. We all tend to think that having many followers on social media is the key to success, but as you’ll hear from Chris, you don’t need a million followers to make a million bucks—sometimes you just need a thousand of the right followers.

Chris Harder, our guest on the show today, is generous and humble, and still invests loads of time into his personal development despite his entrepreneurial success. Rory met Chris at a high-level mastermind, programs that the latter not only teaches but also participates in and learns from as a self-proclaimed "self-development junkie". This is someone who has built a monster personal brand from the ground up and has done it right. His podcast is called For the Love of Money which is his biggest platform, and he has over a quarter of a million followers on Instagram.

Chris Harder, our guest on the show today, is generous and humble, and still invests loads of time into his personal development despite his entrepreneurial success. Rory met Chris at a high-level mastermind, programs that the latter not only teaches but also participates in and learns from as a self-proclaimed “self-development junkie”. This is someone who has built a monster personal brand from the ground up and has done it right. His podcast is called For the Love of Money which is his biggest platform, and he has over a quarter of a million followers on Instagram.

Welcome to another special recap edition of the podcast. Today on the show we are diving into our interview with Anton Gunn, a former senior advisor to President Barack Obama. Anton has a master's degree in social work from the University of South Carolina and is one of the most authoritative voices on socially conscious leadership. He is also the bestselling author of The Presidential Principles and an international speaker and consultant. During our interview, Anton shared some really useful and profound ideas that helped us personally process all that is going on through the lens of a strong leader, a black man, and a personal brand.

Welcome to another special recap edition of the podcast. Today on the show we are diving into our interview with Anton Gunn, a former senior advisor to President Barack Obama. Anton has a master’s degree in social work from the University of South Carolina and is one of the most authoritative voices on socially conscious leadership. He is also the bestselling author of The Presidential Principles and an international speaker and consultant. During our interview, Anton shared some really useful and profound ideas that helped us personally process all that is going on through the lens of a strong leader, a black man, and a personal brand.

Today we introduce our listeners to a good friend and client of ours who we look up to and whose work we respect deeply. He is Anton Gunn, a former senior advisor to President Barack Obama. Anton is one of the most authoritative voices on socially conscious leadership, with a master's degree in social work from the University of South Carolina. He is the bestselling author of The Presidential Principles and an international speaker and consultant who has worked with, among others, organizations such as Microsoft, Sodexo, and Boeing. In this special episode, we get his perspective on the right way to think about and approach the racial injustice crisis that has flared up in the US in recent weeks.

Today we introduce our listeners to a good friend and client of ours who we look up to and whose work we respect deeply. He is Anton Gunn, a former senior advisor to President Barack Obama. Anton is one of the most authoritative voices on socially conscious leadership, with a master’s degree in social work from the University of South Carolina. He is the bestselling author of The Presidential Principles and an international speaker and consultant who has worked with, among others, organizations such as Microsoft, Sodexo, and Boeing. In this special episode, we get his perspective on the right way to think about and approach the racial injustice crisis that has flared up in the US in recent weeks.