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On the Evolving Wellness Podcast, host Sarah interviews board-certified psychiatrist Dr. Josef Dering, who previously worked in the pharmaceutical industry and as an FDA medical officer in psychiatry drug safety. He explains why he now believes psychiatric medications don’t work for most conditions and describes how time-pressured, checklist-based care and “chemical imbalance” narratives lead to escalating drug cocktails without addressing root causes. He warns that benzodiazepines may help short term but can worsen anxiety over time, cause interdose withdrawal, degrade sleep architecture, and impair concentration, making them a “Faustian bargain,” and stresses slow, supervised tapering due to difficult withdrawal. Dering outlines non-drug approaches targeting body, mind, and “soul” (health behaviors, skills-based therapies, relationships, and meaning). He also argues high-potency THC cannabis increases psychosis risk and may lead to long recoveries and misdiagnosis.
Connect withj Dr Josef - https://www.youtube.com/@taperclinic
https://www.instagram.com/drjosefwittdoerring/
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Timestamp:
00:00 Benzos Quick Relief
00:55 Episode Setup Disclaimer
02:29 Podcast Intro Housekeeping
03:42 Meet Dr Dering
04:30 Why He Questions Meds
07:19 FDA Safety Reality Check
08:44 Host Story Benzos
12:16 Sponsor Red Light
14:29 Benzos Faustian Bargain
15:48 Body Mind Soul Framework
21:42 Sponsor Blue Blockers
23:09 Motivation Rock Bottom
26:30 Medical Trust Broken
29:12 Suicidality on Med Cocktails
31:23 Withdrawal Trap and Tapering
34:20 PR Narrative Around Antidepressants
36:22 Meds and Mass Violence Debate
39:27 Gender Ideology in Schools
42:57 Cannabis Mental Health Risks
44:26 THC Potency and Psychosis Data
48:54 Paranoia as Warning Sign
51:34 Safe Tapering and Final Advice
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This video is not medical advice & as a supporter to you and your health journey - I encourage you to monitor your labs and work with a professional!
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On the Evolving Wellness Podcast, host Sarah interviews board-certified psychiatrist Dr. Josef Dering, who previously worked in the pharmaceutical industry and as an FDA medical officer in psychiatry drug safety. He explains why he now believes psychiatric medications don’t work for most conditions and describes how time-pressured, checklist-based care and “chemical imbalance” narratives lead to escalating drug cocktails without addressing root causes. He warns that benzodiazepines may help short term but can worsen anxiety over time, cause interdose withdrawal, degrade sleep architecture, and impair concentration, making them a “Faustian bargain,” and stresses slow, supervised tapering due to difficult withdrawal. Dering outlines non-drug approaches targeting body, mind, and “soul” (health behaviors, skills-based therapies, relationships, and meaning). He also argues high-potency THC cannabis increases psychosis risk and may lead to long recoveries and misdiagnosis.
Connect withj Dr Josef - https://www.youtube.com/@taperclinic
https://www.instagram.com/drjosefwittdoerring/
_________
Sponsored By:
→ Bon Charge | Go to https://boncharge.com/products/demi-red-light-device?rfsn=8108115.26608d & use code SARAHKLEINER for 15% off storewide.
→ VivaRays | This episode is sponsored by VivaRays - VivaRays Blue - code YOGI https://vivarays.com/
→ Organifi | For an exclusive offer, go to https://www.organifi.com/SARAHK for 20% off your order.
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Timestamp:
00:00 Benzos Quick Relief
00:55 Episode Setup Disclaimer
02:29 Podcast Intro Housekeeping
03:42 Meet Dr Dering
04:30 Why He Questions Meds
07:19 FDA Safety Reality Check
08:44 Host Story Benzos
12:16 Sponsor Red Light
14:29 Benzos Faustian Bargain
15:48 Body Mind Soul Framework
21:42 Sponsor Blue Blockers
23:09 Motivation Rock Bottom
26:30 Medical Trust Broken
29:12 Suicidality on Med Cocktails
31:23 Withdrawal Trap and Tapering
34:20 PR Narrative Around Antidepressants
36:22 Meds and Mass Violence Debate
39:27 Gender Ideology in Schools
42:57 Cannabis Mental Health Risks
44:26 THC Potency and Psychosis Data
48:54 Paranoia as Warning Sign
51:34 Safe Tapering and Final Advice
———
This video is not medical advice & as a supporter to you and your health journey - I encourage you to monitor your labs and work with a professional!
________________________________________
Get all my free guides and product recommendations to get started on your journey!
https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/all-free-resources
Check out all my courses to understand how to improve your mitochondrial health & experience long lasting health! (Use code PODCAST to save 10%) - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/courses
My free product guide with all product recommendations and discount codes:
https://www.canva.com/design/DAF7mlgZpJI/xVyE4tiQFEWJmh_Xwx8Kbw/view?utm_content=DAF7mlgZpJI
Free Webinar on Light & Health (includes free light bulb guide) - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/mycircadianapp-free-webinar
Get Early Access to Podcast Episodes & my Seasonal Food Course + UVB+Red Light Therapy course for free - https://open.substack.com/pub/sarahkleinerwellness/p/uvbred-light-protocol?r=5eztl9&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true

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