In a world still debating the future of work, Starbucks is making a bold, definitive statement. By offering a cash exit package to corporate employees unwilling to return to the office, CEO Brian Niccol is sending a clear signal: this isn't just about office policy, it's about reshaping the company's culture.

For today's episode, we're sitting down with Nicole Kyle, Managing Director of CMP Research, to unpack this move and its broader implications. Kyle shares why this unprecedented step is an indicator of a hardline approach to cultural alignment, what it means for other employers considering similar strategies, and how HR leaders can make in-office time truly meaningful—not just a mandate.

Check out part one of our talk below!