Hey Lifers! 

Keeshia is back from Bali. If you go on leave, do you want your work team to miss you? Surely we all come back and want to hear how much we are needed! 😂

Happy belated Mother’s Day! Did you celebrate with your own mum or the mother of your children? Nick Cannon most certainly let his thoughts around mother’s day known. We talk about the very online debate over whether Mother's Day belongs to grandmothers or the mums currently in the trenches. 

Then, petty exes. It started with a (fake) story about a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader who hired a marching band to follow her ex to work for nine days straight. We wish it was real. We read your best revenge stories!

60 Minutes Australia released a world exclusive this week called Michael Jackson’s “secret” second family break their silence. Tara Brown sat down with the Cascio family, Michael Jackson's so-called secret second family, who are now speaking out about what they say happened to them. With the Michael biopic breaking box office records, Leaving Neverland quietly pulled from HBO, and the estate worth an estimated $3 billion, we unpack why this conversation is so divisive. We talk about the question of whether a biopic co-produced by the subject's own estate can ever be an honest one.

⚠️ Content note: this episode includes discussion of child sexual abuse allegations.

TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro
3:25 Nick Cannon's Mother's Day
7:10 The Mother's Day debate: is it about grandmothers or mums in the trenches?
13:03 Britt's spa getaway
20:20 The (fake) marching band revenge 
23:11 Your petty revenge stories: prawns, passports, seagulls and fingernails in the post
28:00 60 Minutes Michael Jackson world exclusive
29:42 Who are the Cascio family and what are they alleging?
31:34 The Michael biopic: box office juggernaut
41:20 What the Jackson estate is worth
43:54 Can you separate the art from the artist?
45:38 "It's just a money grab" — unpacking the Cascio family's allegations
50:52 The parasocial defence of Michael Jackson and what the Epstein files taught us

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