Have you ever looked in the mirror and questioned your success or how you created it? You created expectations and standards for how your conversations should flow, how to judge conversational progress (good or bad), and defined an endless list of "do's and don'ts." In some circles, you are considered successful. But it's a road less traveled –and few do – when you consider giving up the familiar for a new approach. Listen in as Dan and Kiley talk with Mike and Sean, their client from the management consulting firm, PointB. They learned to bet on themselves and their teams using a different approach to compete and take down the giants in their space.