Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

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This week, the hosts debate what the latest Times/Siena poll reveals about Joe Biden’s weaknesses and mull over the question of whether Vice President Kamala Harris is one of them. Plus, Carlos on some advice that’s gold, Jerry, gold.

(A full transcript of this audio essay will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)

Mentioned in this episode:

  • Biden’s Polling Denial: Why He Doesn’t Believe He’s Behind” by Hans Nichols and Alex Thompson in Axios
  • An Interview With Kamala Harris on What’s at Stake in 2024” from “The Run-Up”
  • Kamala Harris Should Try to Be Really Popular” by Matthew Yglesias on his blog, Slow Boring
  • “What Happened” by Hillary Rodham Clinton
  • Did the President Call?” mash-up from HBO’s television series “Veep”
  • “The Last Politician: Inside Joe Biden’s White House and the Struggle for America’s Future” by Franklin Foer
  • Democrats Have a Better Option Than Biden” from “The Ezra Klein Show”
  • This New Book About ‘Seinfeld’ Is Worth Double-Dipping” by Carlos Lozada in The Washington Post
  • Jerry Seinfeld’s 2024 Commencement Address at Duke University
  • Why Conservatives Give Better Commencement Speeches Than Liberals” by Carlos Lozada in The Washington Post

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