Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Why Ending Roe Wasn’t Enough for the Pro-Life Movement


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Nearly four years after Roe v. Wade was overturned, where is the pro-life movement setting its sights? That’s what I wanted to know from the activist Lila Rose. We spoke last month in front of a live audience at the Catholic University of America. We debated whether her cause was prepared for the fall of Roe and whether abortion still matters at all to the right. 

  • 01:55 - Live Action and undercover activism
  • 05:53 - Pro-Life 101 and S.L.E.D.
  • 13:36 - “The mistake of feminism”
  • 17:02 - Pro-family policy
  • 22:47 - The political landscape after Roe 
  • 42:35 - The pro-life movement beyond politics
  • 47:39 - The medical “zone of uncertainty”
  • 53:53 - Why should women be pro-life?

(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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