Ever feel like you “should” be multitasking every minute—reading the latest business book, cracking the productivity code, and oh, also meditating before sunrise? Same.

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In this episode, I sat down with Jaci Schreckengost (https://www.jacischreckengost.com/) for a real-talk coffee date about why giving ourselves permission to read fiction (yes, just for fun!) actually matters more than squeezing in yet another how-to book or productivity hack. If you’ve ever felt guilty for picking up a novel instead of that “10X Your Hustle” guide, this one’s for you.

Jaci and I dig into how maintaining hobbies like reading fuels creativity, why building community outside of business can make your work life less lonely, and the not-so-secret power of ditching guilt for joy. You’ll hear practical ideas on fitting books (and other non-business joys) into your day, even if your “commute” is just the three steps from your bed to your home office. We wrap up with warm book recs, judgment-free advice on rediscovering fiction, and a friendly reminder that being “ordinary” is actually pretty wonderful.

Key Takeaways:

• Make space for creativity by carving out time for hobbies, not just business tasks.

• Remember that community and connection outside of work are key to sustaining a happy business (and life).

• Drop the guilt around having fun—your joy matters every bit as much as your to-do list.

This podcast is for business owners who are tired of hustle culture and want relatable, honest conversations about running a sustainable business that actually works for their life.