On the Evolving Wellness Podcast, host Sarah Kleiner interviews returning guest Chris, a lab reader and health coach, about why standard lab reference ranges can be misleading because they’re based on an average, chronically ill population, leading doctors to label many people “normal” until overt disease appears (e.g., insulin ranges where healthy averages are ~2–6). They criticize algorithmic, diagnosis-driven medicine and argue AI lab interpretation repeats these limitations, lacking nuance and the human “art” of healing. Chris shares his background of childhood illness, leaving a pre-med path after shadowing physicians constrained by the system, and building a holistic practice emphasizing blood chemistry context, lifestyle/circadian factors, behavior change, and nervous system/trauma-pattern work. They discuss setting realistic expectations, avoiding excessive testing and supplement spending, and Chris describes forming a multi-practitioner team and where to find him online.

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Timestamp:

00:00 Coming up

00:54 Podcast Intro and Disclaimers

03:06 Meet Chris

04:15 AI Lab Reads and Reference Ranges

07:22 Algorithmic Medicine vs Healing Art

10:27 Sponsor Breaks and Integrative Care

13:55 Chris’s Origin Story and Whole-Person Framework

31:02 Client Ownership Mindset

32:24 Makeup Sponsor Break

33:49 Trust Recession Reality

36:23 Integration Over Protocols

40:07 Building The Avengers Team

44:54 Tests Versus Basics

49:25 Lab Reading Deep Dive

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This video is not medical advice & as a supporter to you and your health journey - I encourage you to monitor your labs and work with a professional!

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