Trail running has lost some of its fun, and in this discussion, Josh Rosenthal and Wolfrunner (Brian Peterson) delve into the need for the sport to embrace new ideas and bring back some of the old ones.

• Trail running has lost some of its playful spirit.
• How could trail running create NFL-type Thanksgiving energy?
• Listener calls
• Apple Ultra vs. Garmin
• Strava's kicked everyone out of the sandbox (killed its API)
• The effort to rebrand DNFs

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