Lee McKinley, a well-accomplished ultra runner and tri-athlete, lends his wisdom to the podcasts as we discuss why we choose to go to the next level. Lee is competing in his third Ironman Kona in this October and talks about how his training has changed over the years. We also pressure Don into signing up for the Tahoe 200 mile race in September.

Race Director of the Tahoe 200 Candice Burt joins the discussion. Running 200 or Directing 200 which one is easier. You will have to decide after listening.