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017 如果宇宙Vol 3：如果职场里只能说实话 What If Vol 3: If no one can ever lie in workspace
【聊了什么】
谎言，是人类社会的润滑剂，还是效率的绊脚石？是一种自我保护的自由，还是滋生不公的温床？当「我没问题」「收到」「您说得对」背后真实的吐槽被强制公之于众，你的职场生活会更好还是更坏呢？《选修课》「如果宇宙」思想实验系列，再次撕开现实的口子，邀请你一同推想一个“无谎职场”。
我们探讨了当“防御性谎言”和“心照不宣的潜规则”消失后，一系列连锁反应将如何展开：预算博弈的“囚徒困境”能否被终结？等级森严的组织中，是会催生出更强的个体，还是会强迫人们将“崇拜”内化为真实信仰？从语言学的角度看，当隐喻与模糊性被视为不诚实，我们的沟通能力是否会被根本性地剥夺？00后新人为何期盼一个没有潜规则的世界？而体制内的“防御性表演”又将在绝对诚实面前何去何从？当情绪价值被重新估量，当“演戏”不再可能，我们究竟离一个更好的职场更近了，还是更远了？
Are lies the lubricant of human society or the stumbling block of efficiency? Are they a form of self-protection and personal freedom, or the breeding ground of injustice? When everyday workplace phrases like “I’m fine,” “Got it,” and “You’re right” are forced to give way to the truth behind the polite facades, will your work life become better—or worse?
In this episode of Elective Course's “What If Universe” thought experiment series, we once again tear open a crack in reality and invite you to imagine a world with no lies at work.
We explore the chain reactions that could follow the disappearance of "defensive lies" and unspoken workplace rules:
Can the budgetary “prisoner’s dilemma” be resolved? In rigid hierarchies, will this honesty foster stronger individuals—or compel people to internalize flattery as genuine belief?
From a linguistic standpoint, if metaphors and ambiguity are deemed dishonest, are we fundamentally robbed of our ability to communicate? Why do Gen Z newcomers long for a workplace without unspoken rules? And in the bureaucracy, what happens to “defensive performances” when absolute honesty becomes the norm?
When emotional labor is reassessed and there’s no room left for “performing,” are we getting closer to a better workplace—or drifting further away?
【时间轴】
00:00 “如果宇宙”系列，设定脑洞“如果上班不能说谎”。
05:30 四位主播背景介绍（投资人、科研学者、体制内、00后新人）
08:00 体制内财务预算的“防御性表演”（虚报预算）和资源申请虚报的“囚徒困境”
20:24 对上级的表面崇拜和讨好全部消失，会增加还是减少情绪消耗？
31:41 演戏是否算说谎？
41:15 无谎会否带来更多PUA和画饼）？
48:07 上位者在现有潜规则下获得了什么？
55:06 从语言学角度看，“不许说谎”约等于“不许说话”？？
59:32 为何透明高效的模式未成为主流？
00:00 "What If" series: Thought experiment — What if you couldn't lie at work?
05:30 Backgrounds of the four hosts: investor, academic researcher, government employee, Gen Z newcomer
08:00 "Defensive performances" in government budgeting (inflated numbers) and the “prisoner’s dilemma” of resource applications
20:24 If all superficial flattery and fake admiration toward superiors disappear, will emotional exhaustion increase or decrease?
31:41 Is "acting" considered a form of lying?
41:15 Will a no-lies workplace lead to more workplace gaslighting and empty promises?
48:07 What do those in power gain from the current implicit rules?
55:06 From a linguistic perspective, does “no lying” mean “no talking”?
59:32 Why hasn’t the transparent and efficient model become mainstream?
【我们是谁 The Who】
选修课 Universus 是一档分享和探讨泛文化话题的中文播客，脱胎于2013年创办的纽约文化沙龙。
我们力求引发对学科方法和视角的认知和思考，而不仅仅是知识的传递。我们在组织活动的过程中积累了一些经验和人脉，尝试打造成年人的博雅教育，并在播客中拓展这样的探索。我们希望审视和反抗无意识的价值规训与随波逐流。我们希望冷酷地剖析自己的偏见，热忱地拥抱多元视角。我们希望去工具化，真诚地感知、理解、创造自己的生活和复杂的世界。我们追随原初的好奇而非代餐式的猎奇。话题可以轻松，方法力求严肃。在《选修课》里，我们互相映照，唤醒失落的维度。
选修课 Universus is a Chinese-language podcast created by the same people who founded the New York Chinese Cultural Salon (纽约文化沙龙）in 2013.
The past decade of organizing events and talks put us in a position of creating a sort of liberal arts education experience for those who have left school. We strive to go beyond merely transmitting knowledge to reflecting on complex topics using cross-disciplinary perspectives. We strive to resist conformity, to dissect our own biases, and to embrace diverse schools of thought. Our goal is to help professionals resist becoming just a tool of production, and to understand the world around us in earnest. We let our genuine curiosity be our guide. With a light-hearted tone, we approach each topic seriously. We hope that “选修课 Universus” creates a space to explore lost dimensions.
【买咖啡 Please Support Us】
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【聊了什么】
谎言，是人类社会的润滑剂，还是效率的绊脚石？是一种自我保护的自由，还是滋生不公的温床？当「我没问题」「收到」「您说得对」背后真实的吐槽被强制公之于众，你的职场生活会更好还是更坏呢？《选修课》「如果宇宙」思想实验系列，再次撕开现实的口子，邀请你一同推想一个“无谎职场”。
我们探讨了当“防御性谎言”和“心照不宣的潜规则”消失后，一系列连锁反应将如何展开：预算博弈的“囚徒困境”能否被终结？等级森严的组织中，是会催生出更强的个体，还是会强迫人们将“崇拜”内化为真实信仰？从语言学的角度看，当隐喻与模糊性被视为不诚实，我们的沟通能力是否会被根本性地剥夺？00后新人为何期盼一个没有潜规则的世界？而体制内的“防御性表演”又将在绝对诚实面前何去何从？当情绪价值被重新估量，当“演戏”不再可能，我们究竟离一个更好的职场更近了，还是更远了？
Are lies the lubricant of human society or the stumbling block of efficiency? Are they a form of self-protection and personal freedom, or the breeding ground of injustice? When everyday workplace phrases like “I’m fine,” “Got it,” and “You’re right” are forced to give way to the truth behind the polite facades, will your work life become better—or worse?
In this episode of Elective Course's “What If Universe” thought experiment series, we once again tear open a crack in reality and invite you to imagine a world with no lies at work.
We explore the chain reactions that could follow the disappearance of "defensive lies" and unspoken workplace rules:
Can the budgetary “prisoner’s dilemma” be resolved? In rigid hierarchies, will this honesty foster stronger individuals—or compel people to internalize flattery as genuine belief?
From a linguistic standpoint, if metaphors and ambiguity are deemed dishonest, are we fundamentally robbed of our ability to communicate? Why do Gen Z newcomers long for a workplace without unspoken rules? And in the bureaucracy, what happens to “defensive performances” when absolute honesty becomes the norm?
When emotional labor is reassessed and there’s no room left for “performing,” are we getting closer to a better workplace—or drifting further away?
【时间轴】
00:00 “如果宇宙”系列，设定脑洞“如果上班不能说谎”。
05:30 四位主播背景介绍（投资人、科研学者、体制内、00后新人）
08:00 体制内财务预算的“防御性表演”（虚报预算）和资源申请虚报的“囚徒困境”
20:24 对上级的表面崇拜和讨好全部消失，会增加还是减少情绪消耗？
31:41 演戏是否算说谎？
41:15 无谎会否带来更多PUA和画饼）？
48:07 上位者在现有潜规则下获得了什么？
55:06 从语言学角度看，“不许说谎”约等于“不许说话”？？
59:32 为何透明高效的模式未成为主流？
00:00 "What If" series: Thought experiment — What if you couldn't lie at work?
05:30 Backgrounds of the four hosts: investor, academic researcher, government employee, Gen Z newcomer
08:00 "Defensive performances" in government budgeting (inflated numbers) and the “prisoner’s dilemma” of resource applications
20:24 If all superficial flattery and fake admiration toward superiors disappear, will emotional exhaustion increase or decrease?
31:41 Is "acting" considered a form of lying?
41:15 Will a no-lies workplace lead to more workplace gaslighting and empty promises?
48:07 What do those in power gain from the current implicit rules?
55:06 From a linguistic perspective, does “no lying” mean “no talking”?
59:32 Why hasn’t the transparent and efficient model become mainstream?
【我们是谁 The Who】
选修课 Universus 是一档分享和探讨泛文化话题的中文播客，脱胎于2013年创办的纽约文化沙龙。
我们力求引发对学科方法和视角的认知和思考，而不仅仅是知识的传递。我们在组织活动的过程中积累了一些经验和人脉，尝试打造成年人的博雅教育，并在播客中拓展这样的探索。我们希望审视和反抗无意识的价值规训与随波逐流。我们希望冷酷地剖析自己的偏见，热忱地拥抱多元视角。我们希望去工具化，真诚地感知、理解、创造自己的生活和复杂的世界。我们追随原初的好奇而非代餐式的猎奇。话题可以轻松，方法力求严肃。在《选修课》里，我们互相映照，唤醒失落的维度。
选修课 Universus is a Chinese-language podcast created by the same people who founded the New York Chinese Cultural Salon (纽约文化沙龙）in 2013.
The past decade of organizing events and talks put us in a position of creating a sort of liberal arts education experience for those who have left school. We strive to go beyond merely transmitting knowledge to reflecting on complex topics using cross-disciplinary perspectives. We strive to resist conformity, to dissect our own biases, and to embrace diverse schools of thought. Our goal is to help professionals resist becoming just a tool of production, and to understand the world around us in earnest. We let our genuine curiosity be our guide. With a light-hearted tone, we approach each topic seriously. We hope that “选修课 Universus” creates a space to explore lost dimensions.
【买咖啡 Please Support Us】
如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡：
If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following:
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