Today I welcome two incredible women to join me as we explore justice for women, which must include the racial reckoning that’s underway locally, nationally and globally.

I’ve invited Civil Rights icon, former Chair of the Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination, and senior leader in both Michael Dukakis and Mitt Romney’s state administrations, Jane C Edmonds, and Elizabeth Swanson, professor, Ph.D, writer and activist, with a special expertise in African American culture and history, to join us today. Their collective experience, education and mission of working towards racial and gender justice brought them together to create Jane’s Way.

I know for many of us it can be uncomfortable talking about gender and racial justice. We get worried about getting it wrong. I will and have (maybe even in this episode) said the wrong things even with the best of intentions, and I’m learning every time. Because getting it wrong, owning and apologizing when I mess up and growing from there, is far better than doing nothing at all. So let’s get to work. Racial and gender justice intersect, and we all get to stand for it. That is most certainly Woman’s Work.

To learn more about Jane’s Way, visit www.janeswayllc.com.

To learn more about what we are up to outside of this podcast, visit us at NicoleKalil.com

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