It's hard to have babies. No matter what stage of life you start trying to have a family, it rarely goes to plan. And dealing with infertility doesn't just mean figuring out how to start a family or have a baby, it's often an emotional journey that can impact things far beyond that.

This week we are digging into the topic of infertility with two guests who also experienced it themselves and now dedicate their work to helping others start families.

My first guest is Ali Prato, the host of the podcast Infertile AF. Brooklyn-based journalist and mom-of-two. Ali, who went through secondary infertility and IVF herself, talks to women—and some men—about the messy, frustrating, painful, heartbreaking, absurd and sometimes hilarious journey to have a baby. Or in some cases, to not have a baby. Ali covers all of the outcomes in this safe, non-judgement zone: the happy endings, the soul-crushingly sad ones, and the ones still in limbo. She's also the founder of Fertility Rally.

Elizabeth King is a Certified Fertility Health Coach, Master Certified ICF Life Coach, Birth & Bereavement Doula and New Parent Educator. Her mission is to help people of all backgrounds conceive a healthy baby.

After having 3 children of her own after the age of 40, Elizabeth believes taking a more holistic approach is the key to success when attempting to conceive. Now she has helped hundreds of women achieve their dreams of conception and parenthood in 20+ countries around the world. She supports clients through natural fertility, infertility, IVF, miscarriage loss, early pregnancy PTSD, and new parent support.

Follow Ali and learn more about her podcast HERE; and follow Elizabeth HERE.