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When does curiosity become captivity? In this deeply honest conversation, Boysen Hodgson sits down with Chandler Rogers, founder of the Relay app, to unpack the complicated, often hidden world of pornography addiction. Chandler shares his personal story—from early exposure to porn, to the shame and isolation it bred, and finally to the creation of a digital platform that offers men daily, group-based support to reclaim their integrity and connection.

Together, they explore the emotional roots of compulsive sexual behavior, challenge the binary label of “addiction,” and open up a broader conversation about trust, secrecy, faith, and healing.

🔑 Top Themes from This Episode:

• Addiction or Coping? Reframing porn use as a maladaptive solution to deeper pain, not just a moral failure.
• The Power of Community: Why connection—not willpower—is the key to sustainable recovery.
• Breaking Secrecy: How shame thrives in silence and how honest conversation can dissolve it.
• Faith, Masculinity & Identity: Navigating the impact of religion and masculinity narratives on self-worth and healing.

Whether you're in a relationship or navigating this path alone, this episode offers tangible hope—and a powerful reminder: the antidote to shame is connection.

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