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What if the thing you've been told will set you free is actually keeping you stuck? What if forgiveness isn't even the goal?
In this episode of Life Happens with Barb & Michelle, our hosts challenge everything we've been taught about forgiveness. Not the textbook version we learned as kids, but the real, messy, evolving kind that shows up after serious trauma, toxic relationships, and years of bypassed emotions. This is a raw conversation about what happens when you stop forcing yourself to forgive and start focusing on what you actually feel.
💬 Barb opens up about replacing forgiveness with acceptance after her divorce, her history of sexual abuse, and why at 69 years old she's done pressuring herself to forgive people who caused real harm.
💬 Michelle gets vulnerable about being a self-described "sucker" who forgave a major trauma too quickly because the person said the right words, and how she's learning to sit with her own feelings before letting anyone else influence her process.
✨ In This Episode, We Discuss:
"I don't wanna wait that long. And also, is that really even the goal?"
If you've ever felt the pressure to forgive before you were ready, or wondered if forgiveness is even what you need right now, this episode is going to feel like permission to breathe. Barb and Michelle aren't here to tell you what to do. They're here to sit with you in the mess and remind you that healing doesn't have a deadline. Come listen.
📘 Go Deeper with Dear Friend
If this episode on Forgiveness and Acceptance resonated with you, you may also love Michelle’s USA TODAY bestselling book, Dear Friend, a daily reflection companion designed to help you reconnect with your inner voice, honor your needs, and find clarity and strength one day at a time.
Because resilience doesn’t begin with changing your circumstances.
It begins with strengthening your relationship with yourself.
And that may be the most important relationship you’ll ever build.
👉 Order your copy: https://amzn.to/3Us9eqg
🎧 Listen to the audiobook and step into a year that truly loves you back: https://amzn.to/459zSdt
Episode Breakdown ⬇️
0:00 – Intro / Teaser clip
0:58 – Welcome & introducing the forgiveness topic
7:18 – Barb shares where she is today with forgiveness (2026)
8:04 – Barb opens up about childhood sexual abuse
10:15 – Is forgiveness even the goal anymore?
18:57 – Why we put the onus on the person who was harmed
23:24 – Should you remove the other person from the equation?
24:44 – The danger of being easily swayed by an apology
25:18 – How being a "sucker" affects your healing process
41:01 – Walking through what actually works: staying in your own essence
46:21 – Closing thoughts: accountability ≠ forgiveness
49:55 – Outro & Nedra Tawwab quote on releasing forgiveness
💬 We’d love to hear from you! What insight or moment resonated most with you in this episode? Share in the comments—we truly read every one.
📅 Subscribe & Join Us Next Tuesday for another heartfelt episode of Life Happens with Barb and Michelle! 💕
🎙️ Hosted by:
Join our community ⬇️
YouTube: www.youtube.com/@LifeHappensThePodcast
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Substack: https://lifehappensthepodcast.substack.com/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lifehappensthepodcast
Listen to our podcast anywhere→ https://michellemaros.com/podcast/
🎙️ New episodes of Life Happens with Barb and Michelle are released every Tuesday
✨ Available Now✨ Order Dear Friend to receive daily doses of clarity, hope, and heartfelt encouragement.💌 https://amzn.to/3Us9eqg
Our Sponsors:
* Check out Time4Learning: https://www.time4learning.com
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What if the thing you've been told will set you free is actually keeping you stuck? What if forgiveness isn't even the goal?
In this episode of Life Happens with Barb & Michelle, our hosts challenge everything we've been taught about forgiveness. Not the textbook version we learned as kids, but the real, messy, evolving kind that shows up after serious trauma, toxic relationships, and years of bypassed emotions. This is a raw conversation about what happens when you stop forcing yourself to forgive and start focusing on what you actually feel.
💬 Barb opens up about replacing forgiveness with acceptance after her divorce, her history of sexual abuse, and why at 69 years old she's done pressuring herself to forgive people who caused real harm.
💬 Michelle gets vulnerable about being a self-described "sucker" who forgave a major trauma too quickly because the person said the right words, and how she's learning to sit with her own feelings before letting anyone else influence her process.
✨ In This Episode, We Discuss:
"I don't wanna wait that long. And also, is that really even the goal?"
If you've ever felt the pressure to forgive before you were ready, or wondered if forgiveness is even what you need right now, this episode is going to feel like permission to breathe. Barb and Michelle aren't here to tell you what to do. They're here to sit with you in the mess and remind you that healing doesn't have a deadline. Come listen.
📘 Go Deeper with Dear Friend
If this episode on Forgiveness and Acceptance resonated with you, you may also love Michelle’s USA TODAY bestselling book, Dear Friend, a daily reflection companion designed to help you reconnect with your inner voice, honor your needs, and find clarity and strength one day at a time.
Because resilience doesn’t begin with changing your circumstances.
It begins with strengthening your relationship with yourself.
And that may be the most important relationship you’ll ever build.
👉 Order your copy: https://amzn.to/3Us9eqg
🎧 Listen to the audiobook and step into a year that truly loves you back: https://amzn.to/459zSdt
Episode Breakdown ⬇️
0:00 – Intro / Teaser clip
0:58 – Welcome & introducing the forgiveness topic
7:18 – Barb shares where she is today with forgiveness (2026)
8:04 – Barb opens up about childhood sexual abuse
10:15 – Is forgiveness even the goal anymore?
18:57 – Why we put the onus on the person who was harmed
23:24 – Should you remove the other person from the equation?
24:44 – The danger of being easily swayed by an apology
25:18 – How being a "sucker" affects your healing process
41:01 – Walking through what actually works: staying in your own essence
46:21 – Closing thoughts: accountability ≠ forgiveness
49:55 – Outro & Nedra Tawwab quote on releasing forgiveness
💬 We’d love to hear from you! What insight or moment resonated most with you in this episode? Share in the comments—we truly read every one.
📅 Subscribe & Join Us Next Tuesday for another heartfelt episode of Life Happens with Barb and Michelle! 💕
🎙️ Hosted by:
Join our community ⬇️
YouTube: www.youtube.com/@LifeHappensThePodcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lifehappensthepodcast/
Substack: https://lifehappensthepodcast.substack.com/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lifehappensthepodcast
Listen to our podcast anywhere→ https://michellemaros.com/podcast/
🎙️ New episodes of Life Happens with Barb and Michelle are released every Tuesday
✨ Available Now✨ Order Dear Friend to receive daily doses of clarity, hope, and heartfelt encouragement.💌 https://amzn.to/3Us9eqg
Our Sponsors:
* Check out Time4Learning: https://www.time4learning.com
Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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