一款游戏在设计的时候，是玩法重要还是故事重要？是什么样的游戏开发者会说“玩游戏还不如带孩子解压”？又是什么样的游戏开发者会说，“比起做出一款最完美最牛的游戏，我更愿意一辈子都能一直做游戏”？为什么说《蜡烛人》是一款让人明白自己的局限，并让自己与现实和解的作品？本期“狗熊有话说”，在国内外获奖无数的独立游戏《蜡烛人》的开发者高鸣，和我们聊一聊制作游戏背后的故事。

What can you accomplish with just 10 seconds of light? Candle Man is a game about knowing your limitations, and being at peace with them. The developer of the game, Gaoming, shares his story as a developer and the story behind the game Candleman. Special Guest: 高鸣.

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