Conversations with Cam

282: “Who Am I Now?” Matrescence and Identity Crises After Becoming a Mom with Psychotherapist Elizabeth Baron


Listen Later

In this episode, I sit down with Elizabeth Baron, a maternal mental health psychotherapist, to discuss all things matrescence: the physical and psychological changes that come from being a mother. Elizabeth shares the history of the term, how matrescence is a long-term journey, and how overwhelming feelings of ambivalence can play a role. We talk about the “apology tour” of motherhood, the range of experiences that can come from matrescence, and why grief over leaving your pre-motherhood life is natural. She also shares why the four to six month postpartum mark is often significant for mothers, what the “Ghost in the Nursery” paper reveals about reparenting ourselves, how we can allow our children to become who they are, and more.


Key Takeaway / Points:

  • On matrescence, what it means, and the history of the term
  • On matrescence being a long-term journey
  • On ambivalence, the constant push-pull, and the shame that comes from it
  • On the “apology tour” of motherhood
  • On the range of experiences that come out of matrescence
  • On the unrealistic image of the perfect mother
  • On the grief that comes with leaving your pre-motherhood life
  • On the scientific data from studying matrescence
  • Why the four-six month postpartum mark is often significant for mothers
  • On the comparison culture that has tainted our expectations for ourselves
  • On the “Ghost in the Nursery” paper and reparenting ourselves
  • On parenting your children individually
  • On allowing our children become who they are
  • On the reconciliation process in motherhood
  • How Elizabeth fills her cup



This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.


Visit shopstakt.com/conversationswithcam and use code CAMERON for 20% off your purchase

Visit join.arya.fyi/cameron for 15% off your subscription today

Visit TheBeast.com and use code CAMERON at checkout for 15% off your purchase

Visit sakara.com and use code CAMERON at checkout for 20% your first purchase



Follow Elizabeth:

Instagram: @withelizabethb

Website: www.withelizabethb.com




Follow me:

Instagram: @cameronoaksrogers and @conversationswithcam

Substack: Fill Your Cup

Website: cameronoaksrogers.com

TikTok: @cameronoaksrogers and @conversations_with_cam


See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Conversations with CamBy Cameron Oaks Rogers

  • 4.7
  • 4.7
  • 4.7
  • 4.7
  • 4.7

4.7

1,575 ratings


More shows like Conversations with Cam

View all
The Skinny Confidential Him And Her Show by Lauryn Bosstick and Michael Bosstick / Dear Media

The Skinny Confidential Him And Her Show

14,988 Listeners

We Met At Acme by Dear Media, Lindsey Metselaar

We Met At Acme

2,431 Listeners

The Toast by Dear Media

The Toast

33,477 Listeners

The Liz Moody Podcast by Liz Moody

The Liz Moody Podcast

3,150 Listeners

Call Her Daddy by Alex Cooper

Call Her Daddy

165,152 Listeners

Not Skinny But Not Fat by Dear Media, Amanda Hirsch

Not Skinny But Not Fat

6,187 Listeners

Well with Arielle Lorre by Dear Media, Arielle Lorre

Well with Arielle Lorre

4,092 Listeners

With Whit by Dear Media, Whitney Port

With Whit

1,323 Listeners

Real Pod by Dear Media

Real Pod

3,418 Listeners

Giggly Squad by Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo

Giggly Squad

15,126 Listeners

The World's First Podcast with Erin & Sara Foster by Dear Media | Wishbone Production

The World's First Podcast with Erin & Sara Foster

2,766 Listeners

It's Me, Tinx by Tinx

It's Me, Tinx

4,187 Listeners

Move With Heart by with Melissa Wood-Tepperberg

Move With Heart

1,136 Listeners

The Real Stuff with Lucie Fink by Dear Media

The Real Stuff with Lucie Fink

269 Listeners

The Wellness Process by Dear Media

The Wellness Process

354 Listeners