In this episode, Michelle and Lauren explore the holiday season with a twist—focusing on mindful gift-giving, personal well-being, and the joy (and chaos) of celebrating during the most wonderful time of the year. From eco-friendly gift-wrapping ideas to philosophical musings on youth, wealth, and societal issues, this conversation is packed with thoughtful insights, lighthearted banter, and a dash of humor.

If you want to make this holiday season more meaningful without losing your mind (or your holiday spirit), this episode is for you! Get tips on being more mindful with your gift-giving, hear some real talk on wellness practices, and laugh along with Michelle and Lauren’s reflections on what truly matters—both during the holidays and in life.

Hot Topics: The Christmas Guest (novella), Our Little Secret (Netflix), and Anne Patchett

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