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#401 Are We Done With Oxygen? NRP revisited with Michele Kazmier


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Join Blyss and Dr. Stu in this episode as they welcome Michele Kazmier to the show. Michele is a home birth midwife passionate about holistic neonatal transition. During the episode, she shares her insights on the NRP guidelines for newborn care, explaining why oxygen is often used for resuscitating newborns at birth instead of room air, and how to assess babies at birth to determine if they are compromised. 

Listeners will also learn about various neonatal resuscitation methods essential for the care of newborns, with a focus on providing warmth and stimulating breathing. It's crucial to allow time for bonding between the baby and the mother. Michele also offers valuable advice for midwives, emphasizing the importance of patience and calmness during this special moment for the health and well-being of everyone involved. Tune in!

About Michele Kazmier

Michele is a San Diego home birth midwife passionate about holistic neonatal transition. Her interest in neonatal care began over 30 years ago when she was a Navy Nurse in 29 Palms, CA. Faced with limited resources in a busy, remote hospital - full of growing families - she quickly realized how important her neonatal skills were to the clients she served. Since that time she has developed Baby’s Breath - a course to help parents and professionals understand physiologic newborn transition and the skills to support the vital moments following birth.

Connect with Michele

  • Website: www.lavendermoonmidwifery.com
  • Instagram: @lavendermoonmidwifery


In this episode

  • Why oxygen is commonly used to resuscitate newborns at birth;
  • Explaining the different neonatal resuscitation methods;
  • How babies can be assessed at birth;
  • Neonatal Resuscitation Program (NRP) guidelines for the care of newborns at birth;
  • The importance of being patient when welcoming a new baby at birth.


Episode resources

  • pm.amegroups.org/article/view/6817/html
  • www.ilcor.org
  • www.researchgate.net/publication/11452099_Neonatal_Transitional_Physiology_A_New_Paradigm
  • pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3423128/pdf/JRSM-11-0316.pdf
  • pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9056455/
  • pm.amegroups.org/article/view/6817/html


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