On this episode: Nate is rucking things up. Aaron doesn’t understand why the rucking ruckers would ruck their @sses off.

Our Guest: Nate and Aaron welcome back Tullian Tchividjian to the podcast for the third time. Tullian shares the value of crashing and burning in his just released book: Carnage and Grace. Topics include giving ourselves grace for not knowing what we don’t know and the human propensity to fück things up. The guys also discuss earning your Pharisee certificate. The importance of sitting with others in their pain and asking before giving advice rather than fixing.

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