We Are For Good Podcast - The Podcast for Nonprofits

631. Change Leadership, Critical Hope + Building Cultures We Don’t Have to Heal From - Lindsey Fuller, Jon McCoy and Becky Endicott


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We’re closing out this series with a powerful conversation that redefines what leadership can look like. Lindsay Fuller of The Teaching Well joins us to explore how leading with courage starts right where you are—not with a title, but with intention.

We unpack big ideas: hope as a daily practice, resilience as a rhythm, and policies that reflect lived experience—not just words on a page.

Lindsay challenges us to rethink what tools truly sustain leadership—like rest, offboarding, and sabbaticals—and why they’re not extras, but essentials. We also name the often-unspoken reality of compassion fatigue and offer a vision of shared leadership grounded in alignment, not replication.

If you're ready to build a culture that centers humanity, care, and courage—this episode is your invitation to begin.

 Learn:

  • Learn why human-centered leadership means choosing courage over comfort
  • Discover how critical hope is a practice—not a personality trait
  • Understand why change leadership begins right where you are—even without the title
  • Explore what it means for policies to be living, responsive, and rooted in lived experience
  • See how resilience is built through consistent, intentional rhythms
  • Unpack why rest, offboarding, and sabbaticals are essential leadership tools—not perks
  • Learn how shared leadership depends on calibration, not cloning
  • Recognize why compassion fatigue is a real occupational hazard—and what to do about it

Episode Highlights: 

  • The Importance of Critical Hope (05:00)
  • Policies as Culture in Action (08:55)
  • Reframing Policies for Human-Centered Organizations (09:01)
  • 5-Part Framework and Where People Get Stuck (15:00)
  • Challenges in Implementing Human-Centered Policies (14:53)
  • Human-Centered Leadership (25:00)
  • The Role of Feedback in Leadership (27:51)
  • Becoming the Change Leader in Your Team (30:00)
  • The Journey of Rest and Leadership (32:11)
  • Reflections from the Well (33:00)

Episode Shownotes: www.weareforgood.com/episode/631


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