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#72:The Termination: Getting Fired at the Top, Career Grief, and Rebuilding After Losing Everything


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What happens when you’ve built a perfect résumé, then lose everything it stood for?

Laverne McKinnon was doing everything right.Climbing fast. Getting promoted every 18 months.She was a powerful voice behind some of the biggest shows on television—including CSI and Criminal Minds.

And then, one day, it all ended.

No warning. No performance plan. Just a quiet conversation behind closed doors… and a single word that changed everything:

Liability.

What followed was a collapse of identity, a decade of self-loathing, and a grief she didn’t yet have the words to name.She’d lost her job, her father, and her confidence—all at once.

But what she found, years later, was something even more powerful:A second résumé.A deeper calling.And a new kind of freedom she never thought she'd earn.

This conversation is one of the most human episodes we’ve ever recorded. We talk about ambition, pressure, identity, and the cost of being the one everyone else counts on, until you no longer count yourself.

What to Expect:

How losing her job during the height of her success became Laverne’s spiritual awakening

The difference between being “loyal” and being “obedient”

Why grief isn’t just about death but  what happens when identity changes

How codependency shows up in high performers

The moment her life changed forever: “You’re a liability”

How one rogue coach (with no certifications) saved her life

Why your second résumé is more valuable than your first

Key Takeaways:

The people who helped you get here may not be the ones who can help you go next

You can grieve a job, a dream, or an identity and still begin again

The stories we carry about our past often aren’t true

Your second résumé holds the key to your next chapter—but only if you’re brave enough to read it

Permission doesn’t come from your boss, your spouse, or your friends. It comes from you.

🔁 What’s Next?

If this episode speaks to you, this is an invitation to join the growing Normal 40 community to connect with like-minded individuals. Whether through a free Ramble, Lon's Insider group, or his bestselling book 'The Trade,' this episode is your call to action to start designing your next chapter.

Find it all right here: https://linktr.ee/lon.stroschein

Subscribe to Laverne’s Substack – Moonshot Mentor: https://moonshotmentor.substack.com/ 

Connect with her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lavernemckinnon/ 



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