Amy Fritz is joined by Melissa J. Hogan for a conversation about how they realized they were connected to an unhealthy organization. Melissa is an author of the upcoming book Afraid of the Doctor. She's also a lawyer, rare disease awareness advocate, and she consults on clinical trial design and patient outcome measures. In other words, she's brilliant. Amy and Melissa met when Melissa's husband at the time, and Nathan, Amy's husband, were working at Ramsey Solutions. In this episode they talk about how the events happening in the Evangelical world in 2018 and 2019, along with different strategic resources, helped to open their eyes red flags in the organization. Links: The Way of the Dragon of the Way of the Lamb PhD dissertation from Wade Mullen Bill Hybels abuse report James MacDonald reporting by Julie Roys Rachael Denhollander speaks up about abuse at Sovereign Grace Boz Tchividjian, Abuse Survivor Advocate/Attorney Julie Roys Diane Langberg: Narcissism and the System it Breeds The Body Keeps the Score Afraid of the Doctor Steve Hassan, cult expert Melissa J. Hogan Find us here: Twitter: Amy Fritz Untangled Faith

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