Do you struggle with competing desires in your relationship? Do you find yourself unable to reconcile those longings? Desire is a complex emotion that can take many forms, so how do you learn to navigate all of its intricacies?

For most of her adult life, Katy Dion internalized stereotypes about motherhood and the ideal relationship, leading to conflicting desires. It wasn’t until she tried to separate those desires that she realized she could change her mindset to accommodate both. Now, Katy uses her learnings as a mindfulness-based life coach and facilitator to help partners clarify what they want.

In today’s episode of Your Secret is Safe With Me, Dr. Marie Murphy talks with Katy Dion, a mindfulness-based life coach, chaplain, facilitator, and writer, about rectifying her own desires. Katy shares her inspiration for writing the Modern Love essay, her journey to motherhood while navigating a complex relationship, and her strategies for sharing your desires with your partner.