In this episode of Untidy the girls interview Flicka Williams, co-founder, designer and official cat wrangler of My Big Moments and Untidy podcast. With Matilda’s third baby promising to outnumber its parents, Flicka gives her best advice on how to create a rhythm in the chaos of having three kids under five, and sanity hacks for making it through in one piece (there or thereabouts).

Untidy is made for you – the people right at the heart of this steaming hot mess we call parenthood. Follow the show and get in touch on Instagram @untidypodcast. Find Matilda at @matootles and get your copy of The Feel Good Guide. Find Hannah at @hannahedavison and her My Big Moments children’s books at @mybigmoments.

This Untidy episode is co-produced, edited and hosted by the good folks at rova.

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