Ambition 2.0

In this episode of Ambition 2.0, Amanda sits down with board-certified psychiatrist, researcher, and viral mental health educator Dr. Judith Joseph, MD, MBA, to talk about a form of depression that often flies under the radar: high-functioning depression.

If you’re the one who “has it together” (the dependable friend, the rock at work, the caregiver who never drops the ball), but feel numb, exhausted, or joyless inside, this conversation is going to hit uncomfortably close to home (in the best way).

Dr. Judith breaks down:

They also get into practical tools: how to set limits with toxic people you can’t fully cut them off, how to support a friend with high-functioning depression without shaming them, and why scheduling joy is needed.

If you’ve ever thought, “I’m functioning… but I’m not okay,” this episode will help you name it, understand it, and start to change it.

00:00 Intro

01:39 Judith’s story of realizing she was depressed

03:19 Why high-achieving, caregiving women are vulnerable to high-functioning depression

04:41 The difference between happiness and joy

08:30 The five V’s of healing

11:06 What masochism really means, how it became “people-pleasing,” and why women self-sacrifice

19:27 Venting vs trauma dumping 

24:16 How Dr. Judith reclaimed joy through play

33:08 How to support a friend with high-functioning depression

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drjudithjoseph/?hl=en 

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drjudithjoseph 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmHQJaOerTsZJfOtiYz4sOg 

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ABOUT AMBITION 2.0

Powered by Girlboss, Ambition 2.0 is a podcast where we’ll be exploring what it really means to “have it all” in work, family, identity, and self… and if it’s actually worth it. Each week, you'll hear from hardworking women who’ve walked the tightrope of ambition. They'll share their costly mistakes, lessons learned, and practical tips for how to have it all and actually love what you have.

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When it comes to money, most of us were taught to work hard, focus on saving, and not take any financial risks. In this episode of Ambition 2.0, Rachel Rodgers (self-made millionaire, founder of Hello Seven, and author of We Should All Be Millionaires and Future Millionaire) is here to replace that belief with something way more powerful.

Rachel and Amanda get into why wealth is built on risk, not by simply “working harder”, how women are socialized to budget instead of build wealth, and the exact mindset and practical moves that helped Rachel go from living in a low-income household as a child to running an eight-figure business.

You’ll hear them talk about:

Why “making money is easy” is the belief Rachel wishes she’d adopted at 25

The biggest limiting belief holding ambitious women back

Why wealth comes after betting on yourself—not just by investing in stocks and real estate

How to know when it’s time to hire help (EA, VA, house manager, childcare, etc.)

Turning your natural talents and obsessions into income streams

How Rachel designs her life so she can make millions without burning out

00:00 Intro 

04:10 Why women are taught to budget—not build wealth

07:30 Failure, risk, and “successful failure”

10:40 Turning your natural talents into income

14:10 When (and why) to hire help instead of doing it all

19:40 Balancing “treating yourself” with long-term financial goals

23:25 Ambition without burnout: Rachel’s non-negotiables

25:30 The power of community, accountability, and momentum

29:41 The money belief Rachel wishes she had learned sooner

31:10 Rapid fire: millionaire habits, splurges, and rich-life rules

GUEST LINKS

Rachel Rodgers: https://www.instagram.com/rachrodgersesq/ 

Read We Should All Be Millionaires: https://bookshop.org/a/116169/9781400221622

Read Future Millionaire: https://bookshop.org/a/116169/9780310158202 

Read Million Dollar Action: https://bookshop.org/a/116169/9781400243686 

Hello Seven Co.: https://www.instagram.com/hello7co/ 

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What if ambition didn’t mean chasing the next title, paycheck, or performance review? In this episode of Ambition 2.0, host Amanda Goetz sits down with executive coach, podcast host, and author Amina AlTai (The Ambition Trap) to unpack what ambition really means—and why it might need a full rebrand.

Together, Amanda and Amina get real about how culture (and capitalism) have warped our relationship with ambition—especially for women—and how to reclaim it on our own terms. From the “core wounds” that drive our overachieving tendencies to the importance of rest, self-awareness, and setting boundaries, this episode is your permission slip to stop chasing and start living.

✍️What you’ll learn

Why ambition is cyclical (seasons of push + rest)

The five core wounds (Lise Bourbeau) & how they show up at work

“Painful” vs “purposeful” ambition—and how to shift

The five "whys" to separate ego goals from what truly lights you up

The resentment line: naming needs, stating them, and negotiating

How to spot toxic individualism and reframe success as a team sport

Why identity is a prism (you’re more than your job title)

Whether you’re deep in your hustle era or learning to rest without guilt, this convo will help you spot what’s fueling your ambition—pain or purpose—and redesign it for something sustainable, joyful, and yours.

00:00 Intro

02:14 Two camps of ambition

03:58 Core wounds & masks

08:10 Untangling identity from achievement (and capitalism’s worthiness trap)

14:17 Desire, shame, and policing women’s wants

18:34 Toxic individualism vs. team sport mentality

22:38 Mistaking passion for purpose

26:50 Finding your purpose

32:45 Living above the resentment line

GUEST LINKS

Amina AlTai: https://www.instagram.com/aminaaltai/?hl=en 

Read The Ambition Trap: https://bookshop.org/a/116169/9780593655306 

https://www.aminaaltai.com/ 

RESOURCES MENTIONED: 

Lise Bourbeau’s Five Core Wounds framework

Stephen Cope’s The Great Work of Your Life 

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In this episode, Amanda Goetz sits down with Eve Rodsky—the New York Times bestselling author of Fair Play and Find Your Unicorn Space—to unpack one of the most important (and under-discussed) topics for ambitious women today: the invisible labor that keeps households running and the systems needed to make ambition sustainable.

In a world where the lines between home, work, and personal ambition are constantly blurred, understanding the dynamics of domestic labor has never been more vital.

Eve gets real about:

💭 The unseen emotional labor women carry every day—and why it drains ambition

💡 How to redefine success through systems, boundaries, and honest conversations

🔥 Why “having it all” isn’t the goal—and what fulfillment actually looks like

🦄 The power of “unicorn space” and how to carve out time for joy and creativity

❤️ How to reset relationship dynamics using the Fair Play Framework

Let’s dive into what happens when ambition collides with expectation—and how to tactfully rewrite those rules for yourself.

From invisible labor to emotional burnout, from systems thinking to radical self-care, this episode explores how women can reclaim their time, redefine ambition on their own terms, and build lives rooted in equity, purpose, and joy.

00:00 Intro

02:08 Defining modern ambition

03:41 The blueberry story that nearly ended a marriage

08:09 Advice for young women who are dating and are on the fence about kids

11:42 The importance of “unicorn space”

21:37 Navigating relationships and “fair play”

25:15 The oppressive nature of “finding time”

26:35 Boundaries and systems for balance

29:18 The role of “fair play” in relationships

30:39 The practice of setting boundaries

36:30 Radical generosity and protecting your time

38:46 Seasons of life and self-care

GUEST LINKS

Eve Rodsky: https://www.instagram.com/everodsky 

Read Fair Play: https://bookshop.org/a/116169/9780525541943 Read Find Your Unicorn Space: https://bookshop.org/a/116169/9780593328033 

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In the debut episode of Ambition 2.0, host Amanda Goetz sits down with Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni—the visionary co-founders of Phia, the AI-powered shopping assistant backed by Hailey Bieber, Kris Jenner, Sheryl Sandberg, and other major investors.

From meeting as college roommates at Stanford and launching Phia as a class project to raising an $8M seed round for their company, Phoebe and Sophia have been through it all together. They get candid about building a tech startup from scratch, navigating friendship as co-founders, and learning how to set boundaries to avoid burnout.

They open up about:

The real meaning of work-life balance (and does it even exist?)

Why personal branding is a superpower for founders

The “ground rules” that keep their friendship—and business—thriving

Lessons from their fundraising journey and startup leadership

The creative philosophy behind their own podcast, The Burnouts

Whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur or just love a good founder origin story, this episode dives deep into ambition, friendship, and what it takes to build something groundbreaking.

(00:00) Intro

(03:50) The origin story of Phia

(05:18) Building the Phia team and shaping company culture

(11:50) Raising $8M with high-profile investors

(14:15) Friendship “ground rules” for co-founders 

(23:10) Burnout, boundaries, and balance

(28:42) Work-life balance

(30:45) Why personal branding matters more than ever

(32:00) Rapid-fire questions

(38:23) Advice for aspiring entrepreneurs

GUEST LINKS

Phoebe Gates: https://www.instagram.com/phoebegates/ 

Sophia Kianni: https://www.instagram.com/sophiakianni/ 

Phia: https://www.instagram.com/phiaco/ 

The Burnouts Podcast: https://www.instagram.com/theburnouts/ 

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A new era of ambition is here. Welcome Ambition 2.0, the new podcast from Girlboss, where we’ll be exploring what it really means to “have it all” in work, family, identity, and self… and if it’s actually worth it.

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If you’re in New York City or are planning a visit before January 5, 2025, you’re going to want to head to the Music Box Theatre to see Suffs The Musical. Get your tickets now at https://suffsmusical.com/  

On this episode of Girlboss Radio, Avery chats with Dayna Isom Johnson, Etsy's resident trend expert. If that job sounds really cool, that's because it is.

Dayna spends her days interpreting data and trend insights and talking about creativity to uplift and promote Etsy's 5.4 million makers. She makes frequent TV appearances and talks to the media about emerging design trends. Yup, she knew about cottagecore way before the rest of us did.

Dayna did not apply for the job she has now—but she created it by zeroing in on what she loved to do and asking Etsy's leadership to create a role that fit her talent and excitement. 

Avery and Dayna talked about the unusual way Dayna figured out her dream job, how to tell if a company will be a great place to work from the interview stage, and play a special round of In or Out: Design Trends Edition.

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What if you could measure and improve your emotional fitness—just like you track steps or workouts? Emotions play a powerful role in shaping the decisions we make, the connections we form, and the strategies that drive successful marketing.

In today’s episode, we’re diving into the fascinating intersection of cognitive psychology, emotional decision-making, and customer behavior.  

Laura Beavin-Yates, PhD, the Chief Marketing Officer of SIX and Immersion, shares how neurochemicals like dopamine and oxytocin shape our behaviors and why understanding them is so important for building emotional connections in life and business. Laura also unpacks her nonlinear career journey from academia to working with major brands like Google and P&G.  

We explore the transformative power of data, emotional decision-making, and why psychological safety is the key to thriving in remote work environments. Laura introduces SIX, an app designed to help users identify moments that boost wellbeing and emotional health, offering a fresh perspective on how we can take ownership of our mental and emotional lives.  

This conversation is perfect for anyone curious about how emotions drive consumer behavior, how to create meaningful connections, or how to bring more psychological safety to the workplace.

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It’s officially goal-setting season, and what better way to kick it off than by revisiting one of our most-loved episodes? We’re bringing back our conversation with Roxie Nafousi, verified manifestation expert and bestselling author of Manifest—because if you’re dreaming big for the new year, this is the only episode you need.

So, can you actually manifest your dream job (and life)? Back in 2022, our host Avery Francis wasn’t so sure. However, her conversation with Roxie completely shifted her perspective. Roxie broke it all down: manifestation isn’t about crossing your fingers and hoping for the best. It’s about showing up with hard work, clear intention, and a dose of positivity.

This episode shares tangible steps and practical tips to bring more intention into your life. Don’t wait for January 1st—start setting those goals today and discover how to manifest your way into the career (and life!) of your dreams.

✨Learn more about Roxie’s books here: https://roxienafousi.com/books/manifest/ 

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Money talk can feel awkward, but today’s guest is here to change that.

Claire Wasserman, the founder of Ladies Get Paid, teaches us exactly how women can navigate salary negotiations with confidence—no more sweaty palms or second-guessing.

Avery and Claire first dive into the wage gap and discuss why salary negotiation is a skill every woman needs. From researching compensation (hint: it’s more than just Glassdoor) to documenting your wins and understanding the full scope of benefits, Claire offers actionable strategies to help you advocate for yourself at work like a pro.

She also breaks down the role of HR in salary discussions and offers tips on building workplace allies to support your professional growth. Pro tip: likability does matter in negotiations—but so does timing, preparation, and knowing what not to say. 

Plus, Claire gives us her real thoughts on viral career advice—like the idea of “being delusional” in your asks—and advocates for a grounded, research-based approach that leads to real results.

Whether you’re gearing up for a performance review, planning your next big career move, or simply looking to feel more confident at work, this episode is packed with insights and strategies to help you own your worth.  

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