What’s the deal with psychedelics and psychotherapy? Jordana and Naomi are joined by Dr. Michelle Weiner to talk all about cannabis and ketamine-assisted psychotherapy. They start with a convo about Naomi and Dr. Weiner’s close friendship as teenagers, and what it’s like to reconnect after so many years apart. Then Dr. Weiner walks us through the process of drug-assisted therapy, including why it’s helpful (gotta drop that ego somehow), how she administers treatment safely, and when it’s the right option for a patient. Plus, they talk about other psychedelic therapy treatments, and what people are looking to get out of these therapy sessions.

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