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Keywords

red light therapy, acupuncture, lymphatic health, craniosacral therapy, medicinal aromatherapy, essential oils, health practices, holistic healing, eye health, wellness

Summary

In this podcast episode, Dr. Sam Berne discusses various holistic health practices, focusing on red light therapy, acupuncture, lymphatic health, and medicinal aromatherapy. He shares insights on the benefits of red light therapy for eye health, practical applications, and a unique practice called the ‘tongue clock’ that integrates sound and movement for overall well-being. Additionally, he delves into the healing properties of essential oils, their applications, and specific protocols for enhancing eye health.

Takeaways

Red light therapy can improve eye health and reduce inflammation.

Sound bites

“This is a very potent practice.”

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Announcements

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I also wanted to announce that I have one opening for a one-on-one mentorship for my practitioner training. So if you’re interested in that, if you’re a practitioner and you want to work with me one-on-one, we can do that. We’ll set up a discovery call and see if it’s right for you. Contact me at appointments at drsamburn.com. And finally, my kawaii retreat is happening February 19th to the 24th, 2026.

I still have a few spots left, but it’s going fast. So if you’re interested, again, you can email me appointments at drsandburton.com. It’s also on my website. You can register. So on the show today, we’re going to be talking about a practice that I’ve been doing to help people improve not only their lymphatic health, but also in Chinese medicine, improving their acupuncture meridians and also craniosacral therapy.

So you get three things in that. Then I’m going to talk about red light therapy and how to do red light. If you’re curious how to apply red light to the eyes, you can email me appointments at dr. Sam burn.com and I’ll give you those details. And then finally on the podcast, I’m going to talk about aroma therapy. This is a general lecture that I did a while back and you don’t want to miss it. Okay, I’d like to welcome you to

Session five, vision reboot. We’ve got some new things we’re gonna talk about tonight. Three things on the schedule. The first is I’m gonna talk a little bit about red light. I’ve been getting a lot of questions about that. Just spend a few minutes on that. And then I’m gonna show you a new process that combines acupuncture, craniosacral, and lymphatic stimulation. So it’s gonna be really, really good.

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If you want to come and do that, if you can’t make it live, that’s okay. It’ll be recorded and you can download the recording and have it forever. Again, make sure it’s it’s if you go to the homepage, they’ll see a category workshops. If you click on workshops, it’ll take you to all my workshops. So and if you have trouble finding that.

just send me an email appointments at drsamburn.com and I’ll help you sign up. $27, it’s a good deal and we’re gonna do a lot of great stuff about frankincense. Okay, so red light, people have been asking me a lot about red light, how does it work? What’s the science behind it? How do you do it? So I was…

I was really pondering light therapy one day because I’d been doing color and light therapy since the mid 1980s. And when this came on my radar in 2021, there was some writings in some of the journals around mitochondria, the mitochondria health and eye health.

And there really wasn’t much mentioned before that. Really mitochondria is something that over the last four five years has really taken off. You we’ve got methylene blue, which is a support for mitochondria therapy. We have red light boxes. We have red masks that help our skin health. And I’ve talked to several manufacturers and companies about

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especially in the area of macular degeneration, dry eye, eye inflammation. Because one of the tenants about red light is that it seems to reduce oxidative stress and inflammation. And this was showing up in systemically where chiropractors who I talked to were using

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and it creates very high level inflammation. And really the only standard treatment is long-term steroids. Now there is an autoimmune component to uveitis, but one of my first cases was applying red light therapy to this person. And within six weeks they were off the steroids, because know, steroid eye drops can cause cataracts.

and glaucoma bring the pressure up, push the pressure up. So after that six week, Mark, she was off steroids. I sent her back to her ophthalmologist and he couldn’t believe he was dumbfounded that the inflammation had receded so aggressively. He was really surprised by that. And so I started on this quest of, how can I do this? How can I…

apply red light and we had our red light machines that we used in our color therapy red light plastic gels that you could put over your eyes and eventually I had red exercise glasses some of you have those. So in the study one of the things that was discussed was when do you apply red light and the best time to do that is between sunrise and noon. You want to do it in the morning

and know morning sunlight is so good for you. Every one of you should be getting morning sunlight even if it’s cloudy. You don’t have to look at the sun. You know you can have a hat on take a walk, but everything is pointing to that morning sunlight. It’s got the healthy blue light. It’s got the natural full spectrum lighting.

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But that zone of somewhere between 3 and 10 minutes seems to be the sweet spot. And with that application, you can use it as a meditation. You can add like 528 Hertz, which is a sound healing that we’re using now. And you know, that’s the Byrono beats or you can just do the red light. You can go outside and garden.

not sure you should be out walking with it, but certainly or driving with it, but get that natural light. Now, here’s the second part of it is in the machines that that, you know, emit red lights way too bright, way too bright. And a lot of my patients have what we call photosensitivity. They’re sensitive to light and

When we are sensitive to light, what happens is we get what we call the blink reflex. You may have experienced this if you’re driving into the sun and there’s a lot of glare or you’re over at the beach or you’re up in the mountains or just generally speaking, if it’s a really bright sunny day, it can be too overwhelming for your eyes.

So in the red light application, the key is having the red lens right on your eyes and any light called ambient light, which is light from the side, dim light, can be enough that activates the red frequency that’s gonna be directed into your eyes. You don’t need to have a projected light in there. You just have to be around some light while the red lens is on your eyes. And you get to dictate how bright you wanna go with it.

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and they’re in the light but the sun is not directly shining on them and that works really well. So you get to regulate the brightness of the light. You just need to have the lenses on between three and ten minutes. And the last thing I want to say is, you know, repairing mitochondria function, especially when our mitochondria begins to shut down after about age 40, takes some time. Patience is really important. It’s not like a drug that

Today you take the drug and tomorrow the symptom is less. You need to do it over a period of at least 12 weeks as a minimum. Now once you reach that 12 week period

It’s your choice now to say do I want to continue with this just as a maintenance? Some people do. I mean, I have people in their 80s that use that light every day and they’ve been using it for the last five years, but they see really well and they’re knitting. They see really well, you know for reading for their phone and you know, it’s just another kind of eye vitamin, but it’s just in the form of light. So.

I find that when people use their intuition in the things that I give them tuning in yes or no, should I use this?

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and your eyesight and your eye clarity is better. Your visual coordination is better. It’s going to help the brain because the eyes connect to the brain. 25 % of the…

pathways in the eyes go to non-visual pathways like your hypothalamus pituitary pineal and then the blood supply. have a very concentrated blood supply in the eye when you apply light to the eyes. It takes about 40 minutes for the light to circulate throughout the entire body. So you’re getting red light systemically and metabolically just by using the portal of the eyes. So that’s my my update on red light therapy.

All right now what we’re going to do is we’re going to shift gears and I’m going to teach you a practice that’s going to help both your acupuncture meridians, it’s going to help your craniosacral rhythm, and it’s going to help your lymphatic health. Get three in one. It’s a very efficient practice. All right so in order to do that I’m going to give you a little context here and

The first thing I want to say is that you may know this. I’ve said this many times is whenever you make sound, whenever you make a sound, it vibrates the tissue in the body. And if you use your hands as tuning forks, it directs the sound. We’ve done this with palm hum. We’ve done it on the heart. We’ve done it on the belly button. Tonight, we’re going to work on the vagus nerve and we’re going to work on

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Now the thing about the tongue is that it’s soft tissue and undulates. Okay, and whenever we access undulation in our tissue, it creates an undulation and a wave in our body. And one of the things that happens both as we age and we get exposed to the wireless electromagnetic pollution that’s out there is that our wave

begins to become flat and are something called stasis where we don’t have that waveform anymore because the electromagnetic influence shuts it down. Repetitive movements shut it down. Fear shuts it down. Paralysis just are…

You know, get we get in trauma. Our trauma comes up. So this waveform.

and the spine has a wave and the tongue is part of the top part of the spine. So we’re going to use our tongue and whenever we use our tongue with sound and we direct the sound in certain ways, it recreates this undulation in our body. And when we create more undulation, we get better circulation, better oxygenation and the fluid part of our body

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then this creates more circulation. So we’re combining sound, we’re combining the tongue, we’re combining touch. And one last thing, I’m gonna talk a bit about where you’re gonna put your tongue, okay? So there’s two places here that you’re gonna place your tongue. The first is, if you can visualize this, on the outside part.

of the upper teeth and the inside part of the upper lip. So I’m pointing to this with my finger right here. This is actually a point called the governing vessel. The governing vessel is a meridian that runs.

through our third eye, above our head, down our spine, around our perineum, and it comes into the belly button. Now the governing vessel in acupuncture is our yang meridium, yang, activity, masculine. Okay, that’s what it is. So when we make a humming sound and we press on the inside part of the upper lip,

We’re activating that entire meridian. Okay, which is really amazing. Now the second thing. that’s the acupuncture part. The second part of what we’re activating is in the back part of our head is something called the cervical spine. We have cervical bones here and the cervical bones sit below the back of the head, which is our visual cortex.

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based on the compression of the cervical spine. So when you press on the inside part of the upper lip, you are spreading the cervical spine behind you. In fact, we have C1 to C4 is activated by pressing on the governing vessel. So you’re getting acupuncture, you’re getting craniosacral,

and you’re getting the vagus nerve and the lymph when you’re humming. Okay, so that’s the first part. The second position is taking that tongue again and putting it on the lower part, the inside part of the lower lip. Guess what that’s called? The conception vessel. And that’s the feminine, that’s the yin, and that runs down into

your the front of your body and it meets up with the governing vessel. So we have the conception vessel lower the governing vessel upper. Now when you activate the conception vessel C4 to C7 spread out. So you’re getting C1 to C4 on the top C4 to C7 on the bottom. You’re getting this whole action going and you’re getting the vagus nerve.

Now we’re going add one more thing, which is when you’re humming. I want you to rock because that stimulates the ear the vestibular system, which is very connected to our balance and our orientation and it’s very connected to the eyes in something called the vestibular ocular reflex. So when we rock and you can rock side to side, you can walk forward to backwards.

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I’m putting my tongue here.

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So my body is responding to the…

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and then open attention again, and then you’re gonna do one more time. Okay, so we’re gonna do three, the power of three. Three hums on the top, three hums on the bottom. Open attention. Three hums on the top, three hums on the bottom. Open attention. Three hums on the top, three hums on the bottom. Open attention. And then we’ll have a closing of it. So that’s the situation.

So get yourself in a seated position. You can, yes, I would say with open attention, close your eyes so you can go more internal. That would be really good. So let’s get in position. And I want you to place your hands on your vagus nerve on either side. Okay, your eyes can be open on this. It doesn’t matter exactly where you put your tongue. So if you can’t get up really high,

just you want it on the outside part of the upper teeth, inside part of the upper lip. And then what I’d like you to do is rocking, and I want you to do three hums, one on each exhale, go slow. So let’s do that right now.

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thoughts. It could be you want to move. Just listen for a minute.

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on the inside part of the upper lip rocking. Do another different kind of rock this time. Three hums.

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Make the rocking micro movement.

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You’re doing a lot of things at once. You’re getting that craniosacral treatment with the cervical cervical spine spreads again. You’re getting the acupuncture stimulation and you’re getting yeah, it’s called the tongue clock tongue clock. Now this is the tongue clock basic next week. We’re going to do the tongue clock advanced, but this is called the tongue clock.

Also, when you’re moving your tongue again, you’re getting that undulating tongue movement. It’s it’s informing the body to have a subtle wave as well and having that that wave motion is really a key to vitality and health as opposed to just like that very very straight. So well done.

So what I’d like to move to now is this will be, let me just share my screen here. Okay.

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essential oils, basil, fennel, peppermint. I began using those in water, sipping them before, during, and after meals. And within a few months, all my nausea and

irritation in my digestive tract went away. So then what I began to do is because I do something called a hair mineral analysis and I worked with a lot of children, I found that the hair mineral analysis showed heavy metal toxicity. That was a big big issue for them. And so I developed a essential oil protocol to detox the heavy metals out of the body.

and there were three essential oils I used. The first was black cumin, and that was an essential oil that boosts the immune system, and I had them do six drops in a glass of water and drink that in the morning. Then what I had them do is use two other essential oils. One is called patchouli, and I had them put…

three drops on the soles of their feet twice a day morning and evening and then the other one was a central oil called cedarwood atlas it’s the tree atlas three drops of that on the feet in the morning and the evening and in the study the parents did that twice a day for three months and that was the protocol that got rid of the heavy metal toxicity

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immune system health, eye health. I mean, there’s lots of different applications. so that’s kind of my beginning of aromatherapy. This is a lavender plant.

And one of the other things that I did was I actually did some of my own making of essential oils. I had a glass distiller and I used to go to different far lavender farms and other places and make my own essential oils, which was really amazing. And so I really got into the process of it also. So in this lecture tonight,

I’m going to talk a little bit about the wisdom that comes from plants and trees because it isn’t just the physical, but it’s also the emotional, psychological and spiritual aspects of plant medicine, whether it’s herbs, flower essences, essential oils, you know, in our property.

We have a lot of plants that my wife has cultivated that are very medicinal. make Mollon tea. She’s got, you know, lots of different things growing that we can actually make into, you know, medicinal plant-based medicines. So it’s pretty amazing that our, you know, our land and our nature supports us really well if we allow it.

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Now when we talk about essential oils, rose vibrates at 300 megahertz. Lang Lang, 120 megahertz. Laurel leaf, 118 megahertz. Lavender and frankincense around 117 and 115 megahertz. So that’s a lot more than even normal health. But if you’re sick or your energy is low,

starting to apply essential oils either on your body or or diffusing it in the air or taking a bath with it can be very beneficial in raising your vibration and energy and quoting by teacher dr. Hazel Parcells who lived to 106 and I met her in 103 she taught me a lot about energy healing she said if you want to get rid of disease raise your vibration

All right, I want to bring in one of my own mentors and teachers, Steven Buhner. He’s written a number of books. Y’all look him up. He’s an herbalist. He’s not alive anymore. But this is what he says and quote I’m quoting him by declaring war on bacteria. are declaring war on all living structures on Earth. Antibiotics have one single compound essential oils have

such a complexity that when the bacteria actually morphs, the essential oil can handle the change. And the key in using essential oils or any plant-based medicines is keeping things in balance and harmony. So this militaristic languaging that we see in the media, you know, and what we saw about COVID, you know, the war on COVID, the war on

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COVID right now, but essential oils, one of the many natural protocols that can be used to neutralize viruses, fungal infections, antiviral, antifungal, respiratory issues. Some of my go-to for respiratory health are simply eucalyptus and tea tree oil. One of the ways that we recommend either one of these is

taking a drop or two and putting it in a neti pot and cleaning out your sinuses. It’s a really great thing to do. If you’re flying on an airplane, if you’re, you know, in an indoor environment and you feel like, you know, you’ve gotten, you know, some things there, either it’s antiviral or antifungal, eucalyptus and or tea tree oil can work really well at reducing those.

problems. Now another thing that I talk about in my Aromatherapy trainings is the power of anointing and if you have a loved one, you know a parent, a child, a partner, a friend, giving, asking for permission and then applying the essential oil to either their body or

you know, there’s lots of different ways that you can do it. I’ll talk about applications. Creates a certain sacredness and anointing goes all the way back to, you know, early biblical times. It’s a very potent way to amplify the effectiveness of plant-based medicine.

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but it depends on your own constitution and it also depends on the temperature of the essential oil. So as an example, oregano is a very hot essential oil. You wouldn’t want to apply that directly to your skin.

However, lavender, which is more of a cooling oil, you might be able to apply it to the skin. It just kind of depends on your skin constitution and whether you wanna do that. Now, when you look for companies, and I’m gonna talk more about this at the frankincense course.

You want to look for practices that the companies are doing which are called wildcrafting or biodynamic farming because when the farmer takes into account the rhythms of nature, it actually increases the vibration of the essential oil. And if you use these big companies, multi-level marketing and machine harvesting, it

interferes with the vibrational integrity of the essential oil. You know, we talk about pouring through with a machine or doing hand pouring. It’s better if you can find a company that does hand pouring.

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You need to be careful about the integrity of the essential oil and how it’s being produced and sold. Essential oils are a healing force of nature. They’re highly concentrated. They’re volatile. They’re very strong. They’re organic and

There are different ways to produce essential oil. When I was making my own essential oils, I was doing something called steam distillation. Now in some essential oils, they have to do kind of an extraction where they’re putting in something like hexane to get enough of the essential oil and then they take the hexane out. And so a lot of it is dependent on what part of the plant they’re using, where they’re harvesting it.

and what they’re trying to achieve. But make no mistake about it, the essential oils have very complicated chemotypes. And when I studied essential oils, I really came to respect nature’s intelligence compared to pharmaceuticals, which are synthetically made and they’re very one dimensional.

So when we start using essential oils, our body takes that in and it creates a energy supplementation which can really change our energy fields. And so like peppermint, for example.

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put a drop or two of peppermint oil on that bandana and put it around my neck and it keeps me really cool. So peppermint is a cooling essential oil. Probably people can use it directly on the skin and you can also drink it. Now another factor I want to bring in is this term called adaptogenic and adaptogenic.

means that the essential oil is going to work based on your body’s energy. And so unlike treating a symptom where everybody gets the same result, I could give 10 people a spike lavender essential oil and based on where you are with your body, it’s going to respond in that particular way.

The other term I want to bring in is called lipophilic, meaning that it’s more fat-based or hydrophilic. And what’s really interesting about essential oils, and I talk about laurel leaf, bay laurel, which is wonderful for your lymphatic health. And by the way, if you get…

you know, your mammograms, what I recommend is massaging laurel leaf on your breasts before you go in. And that’s going to be like a protection from the radiation.

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took the pain away. So you can use essential oils along with baths and showers to push the essential oil more deeply into the body.

Now, I just talked about birch. Wintergreen is very similar to birch in that way. Basically that because essential oils are so complicated in their chemotypes, they can actually be not only antibacterial, but they also have antioxidants in them and they can even support cellular health.

Also, essential oils have nutritive values. Some of them have vitamins and minerals. If we look at the essential oils like ginger, great for your digestion. The cedarwoods, really great for adrenal health. The furs, grounding and good for adrenal health. The citruses, great for boosting your mood. Eucalyptuses, good for respiratory. So these essential oils bring more light and energy

to your body on a physical, emotional, and spiritual level. Now I want to be clear here, not all essential oils are antiviral and antifungal or breaking the blood-brain barrier. Now I’m going to list here some antiviral essences, lemon, thyme, naoles, the sages, rosemary, cinnamon bark, mountain savory, oregano,

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getting rid of heavy metals, manuka, canuka. So some essential oils do break the blood brain barrier. And we’re going to talk more about that at the frankincense class. As you see there, frankincense is number one breaking the blood brain barrier. Sandalwood is one of my go-to’s if you’ve got UTI infections. Artemisia, myrrh, great for dental health. Alimi, which is a sister to frankincense. Helichrysum, which is great for the skin. And amaranth.

Yes.

Now we want to look at what part of the plant is volunteering its essential oil to us. And the flower essences like neroli and rose and tuberose and jasmine, langlang, those open the heart. They’re very high vibrational. Sometimes we use different plant parts like the leaves or the needles. This would be eucalyptus and pettigrains.

And then the furs like myrtles, fruits, black pepper, clove bud. By the way, clove blood is great for dental health. And then the fruits, the peel of the fruits like orange, mandarin, lemon, and lime, very uplifting. If we continue the seeds like sweet fennel, anise seed.

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Ginger, ginger lily, and then we’ve got the resins. This would be like frankincense and myrrh, galbanum, and the flower tops. Lavender, oregano, thyme, and hyssop. Now don’t expect you to absorb all this right now, but I’m just giving you the variety and the broadband that these essential oils, where they come from based on the plant part.

All right, so in terms of applications, one way to do it is undiluted directly on the skin. However, one of the things I recommend doing is a skin patch, doing a test where you take a little bit of the essential oil and you put it on the inside part of your arm by your wrist. So you take a drop and you put it there and you feel it and you watch it for a few minutes.

And if you get a sensitivity, a redness, a burning, first of all, if any essential oil is burning, you just need to put some coconut oil on it, olive oil, almond oil, and that will take the burning away. But doing a test patch at the beginning will tell you whether you can do undiluted or not.

Again, in the frankincense class, I’m going to go into carrier oils, how to dilute the oils, what’s the ratio and things like that. But

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if you pass the test patch then you probably can use it. The other way to do it is just to dilute the oil. You still get the energetic benefit and it’s more safe to do. All right I want to talk a little bit about the mist part of essential oils. We call this hydrosols. A lot of people don’t know what this is. So when we distill in essential oil basically what we do is we harvest a plant

And let’s say for example when I used to make sage oil I would do a ceremony around the sage plant. I would do drumming. I would ask the plant.

Is it okay to take some of you, you know, and so we would harvest it, bring it home, and then we put it in this distiller. We heat it with water and it would create a steam. It created a steam effect after a while and in that steam was the essential oil and there’d be two places where the steam would go. One would be direct essential oil, the oil, and you need a big amount of plant part to get a

small a pound of essential oil. That’s why it’s so expensive, but that the other part had water poly particles in it, but also the essential oil that became the mist the hydrosol and hydrosols are a fraction of the price of the concentrated oil. And if you’ve got dry eye or dry skin.

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You can do a neroli, a jasmine. So it kind of just depends on the company and what they what they offer. But I go for hyper soles a lot because it’s much less cost and I’m still getting that energetic and I can receive it much better because it’s in a mist. All right, in terms of some of the essential oils, I really like black spruce is a natural corticosteroid.

Lang Lang is great for your heart, opening up the heart. And Clary Sage is great as a hormone balancer. So again, you can apply any of these under the armpits or in the lymph channels. And frankincense has been shown to have anti-cancer properties. I’m going to talk more about that at the class. And I’ve used it

to open up the eyes, to open up our vision. So you can put it on your third eye as an example, or the top of the head. And again, I’m gonna talk more about frankincense at the class because there’s a lot of different applications for it. So with essential oils, I think what I wanna leave you with is a couple of things. Number one,

Find a company that you resonate with. I’m not against multi-level marketing companies. They actually have some really consistent essential oils.

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I always say start with the oils you have and use those pick one or two and start applying it to the soles of your feet or you do a test patch and you see, okay, I really like this. Maybe let me try it on the lymph system or on my tummy or my low back. Okay, you can put it in the area where maybe you know, you’re feeling some pain or inflammation. I’m going to give you the eye protocol.

right now and this is really good for your eyes but the caveat is is that your skin can handle it. All right so there’s three essential oils you use for the eye protocol. The first is called sweet fennel or fennel and you apply it at the hairline. Hopefully you can see this in the temples and the cheeks okay. Right on top of that

Carrot seed. Okay, those three positions. Now that carrot seed is going to be warm. So you might have your coconut oil nearby. If it gets too hot or you start getting something, you know, like a rash or something, immediately apply the coconut oil. And then the third one is frankincense. So you’re layering the essential oils.

My experience both myself and with thousands of people that I’ve used this on is it starts to open up the peripheral vision and you’ll start energetically feeling this. This is pretty incredible. And if you do this once a day, it’s going to help your night vision, your focus, your eye clarity. It’s really good 30 day challenge once a day or every other day. Yeah. So the positions again, you’ll get this recording. So I encourage you.

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I would say probably for most people learning about using a carrier oil with the essential oil so you’re diluting it and not putting it directly on your skin would be a good way to start. And sign up for my frankincense course and you’ll learn how to do that. All right, that’s our show for today. Thank you so much. Until next time, take care.

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