Imagine picking up the phone and realising that your Dad is an ASIO spy?

That happened to Julian Schiller when he was just 12 years old. Since then he has had to navigate the minefield of secrets that envelops ASIO employees due to the nature of their work, to tell the story of how his Dad's job took him from relatively mundane tasks to life threatening situations every day.

With our politicians exposed as targets of foreign operators, he explains why countries like Russia and China still have their eyes on us.

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Host: Claire Murphy

With thanks to: 

Julian Schiller - Co-host of ABC Adelaide Breakfast

Producer: Claire Murphy

Executive Producer: Kally Borg

Audio Producer: Thom Lion

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