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Befriending Our Anxiety [303]


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In today’s episode, I interview Natalie Deering, an Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapist and host of That Wellness Podcast. Together, we explore practical and spiritual approaches to anxiety, offering tools to transform anxiety from an adversary into an ally. We discuss personal experiences, explain key IFS concepts like "trailheads," and share exercises to regulate the nervous system and foster self-compassion.


Key Topics Discussed:

  • Understanding anxiety as a trailhead (find out what a trailhead is in IFS too!)
  • Practical self-regulation tools.
  • The role of fear in anxiety.
  • Spiritual integration.
  • Everyday self-embodiment practices (SEEs).

Read the show notes and/or ask Natalie a question here

Related Resources:

  • Connect with Natalie on her website and on Instagram.
  • Listen to Natalie’s podcast, That Wellness Podcast.
  • Check out the books Natalie mentioned, “Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers” and “Fuel Your Brain, Not Your Anxiety: Stop the Cycle of Worry, Fatigue, and Sugar Cravings with Simple Protein-Rich Foods.” 
  • Are you wondering what is happening inside your own painful and confusing marriage? I wrote another book just for you called Is It Me? Making Sense of Your Confusing Marriage: A Christian Woman’s Guide to Hidden Emotional and Spiritual Abuse.
  • My newest book, All the Scary Little Gods, is a spiritual memoir using IFS about healing from religious trauma and toxic programming. 
  • Flying Free is my online membership program designed for Christian women in emotionally abusive marriages. Whether you want to stay in your marriage or leave, we want to equip and support you through this program.
  • Flying Higher is my online membership program for Christian women interested in 10Xing their self-development progress. 

Natalie Deering is a licensed mental health therapist and IFS level 2 practitioner who specializes in using Internal Family Systems therapy to help people get to know their authentic selves and heal the parts of them that are stuck in the past. Natalie hosts That Wellness Podcast, a podcast that provides interesting IFS-related interviews and meditations for people who are doing healing work on their inner parts using IFS. 

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