So you got divorced, and now you’re the scandal of the century in your tiny town (or tight church circle). You’re dodging judgmental glances in the grocery store and wondering if your prayer request just got broadcasted as Christian-sanctified gossip. Sound familiar? 

In this episode, I team up with my friend and fellow coach, Diana Swillinger, to talk about how to take your power back when your life becomes the talk of the neighborhood.

If you're tired of feeling like your healing is public property and you’re ready to walk tall again, even while Sister So-and-So is side-eyeing you from the church pew, this one’s for you.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode: 

• Why small communities (and churches) make divorce extra spicy 
• How gossip can hijack your story, and how to stop handing it over
• Practical ways to reclaim your voice, dignity, and narrative
• How to respond to those “concerned” (ahem…nosy) comments
• What shame does to your soul and how to evict it for good
• Why protecting your story is wisdom, not paranoia
• Confidence tips to strut your stuff, even when your insides are spaghetti
• How to truly stop giving a flying fig about other people’s opinions

Feel like a hot mess after divorce? This FREE 5-Day Workshop will teach you a mind-shift tool to help you learn a powerful way to manage your thoughts and emotions in order to navigate adult decisions with clarity and peace.

Read the full show notes and/or ask Natalie a question here

Related Resources:

• Flying Higher (https://joinflyinghigher.com) is my live mentorship program for Christian women pursuing increased confidence, emotional management, relational health and empowered self-development.
• Check out Diana’s website and explore some resources, listen to her podcast, The Renew Your Mind Podcast, and finally, connect with her on Facebook and Instagram.
• Listen to Amy Cuddy’s TED Talk and do some power poses. 

Have you ever been talked over in a meeting, assigned work with no warning, or gotten that oh-so-lovely “Can you just help with this one little thing?” at 4:59 p.m.? 

In this episode, I’m joined by Stacey, Diana, Marie, and Grace, all divorced Christian women who are navigating life post-divorce in the workplace. We’re diving deep into how to show up for yourself professionally without selling your soul or compromising your values.

What We Talked About:

• How divorce made us braver and more assertive at work 
• Real-life stories of standing up to toxic bosses and winning (even if your hands are shaking the whole time)
• Tips for dealing with mansplaining, micromanagers, and Monday meetings 
• Knowing when to speak up and when to let it go Elsa-style
• Creating unshakeable boundaries around your time, energy, and sanity
• How trauma triggers show up in the office, and how we’ve learned to manage them
• Why being a “dependable worker” doesn’t mean being everyone’s doormat
• Using body language and presence to command respect 
• The sacred art of saying “no” without apologizing or over-explaining
• Gossip: How to shut it down without becoming the HR police

Feel like a hot mess after divorce? This FREE 5-Day Workshop will teach you a mind-shift tool to help you learn a powerful way to manage your thoughts and emotions in order to navigate adult decisions with clarity and peace.

Read the full show notes and/or ask Natalie a question here

Related Resources:

• Flying Higher (https://joinflyinghigher.com) is my live mentorship program for Christian women who are ready to evolve into the next version of themselves. A version that is more confident, more regulated, and more at peace about all of life. 
• Connect with Marie on her blog, Live Like it Matters, and website, Spiritual Direction with Marie. 
• Connect with Stacey and find all her resources on her Linktree. 
• Check out Diana’s podcast, The Renew Your Mind Podcast.
• Add Presence: Bringing Your Boldest Self to Your Biggest Challenges by Amy Cuddy, Dare to Lead by Brené Brown, and Rich Girl Nation by Katie Gatti Tassin to your library.
• Check out Toastmasters.

What if your deepest shame wasn’t actually yours to carry?

If you’ve ever felt the cold shoulder from your Christian family after your divorce, or you’re still untangling the sticky spiderwebs of shame and silence from your upbringing, pull up a chair. This episode is for you.

I sat down with friend and fellow coach, Diana Swillinger, and together we unpacked how family of origin dynamics continue to haunt, shape, and sometimes straight-up sabotage your healing after divorce.

Here’s what we discuss:

• What if the heavy load you’ve been dragging around was never yours to begin with?
• Could their cutting looks and guilt-trips actually say more about them than about you?
• What if boundaries weren’t about controlling others at all but something far more personal?
• At what point do parents stop calling the spiritual shots in your life?
• Is it possible that saying “no more contact” could actually be a sacred act?
• Why does the loss of “what should’ve been” sting almost more than the loss itself?
• Can forgiveness bring peace without flinging the door wide open again?

Read the full show notes and/or ask Natalie a question here

Related Resources:

• Flying Higher (https://joinflyinghigher.com) is a life-changing mentorship program for divorced Christian women pursuing increased confidence, emotional management, relational health and empowered self-development.
• Feel like a hot mess after divorce? This 5-Day Workshop will teach you a mind-shift tool to help you learn a powerful way to manage your thoughts and emotions in order to navigate adult decisions with clarity and peace. 
• Check out Diana’s website and explore some resources, listen to her podcast, The Renew Your Mind Podcast, and finally, connect with her on Facebook and Instagram.
• Dive into the books recommended in today’s episode, Finding Meaning: The Sixth Stage of Grief and Forgiveness After Trauma. You can also listen to the interview I did with the author of Forgiveness After Trauma on the Flying Free Podcast, Episode 281. 

What if everything you believed about God was actually holding you hostage?

In this episode, I sat down with my friends and fellow coaches Diana Swillinger, Stacey Wynn, and Marie Griffith to get real about what it looks like to rebuild your relationship with God after the spiritual ground beneath your feet crumbles.

We’re talking about spiritual deconstruction, not as a slippery slope into heresy ( it’s actually a slip ‘n slide into FREEDOM), but as a necessary and sacred process of untangling truth from toxic theology. We share our personal stories of excommunication, church hurt, faith unraveling, and finding Jesus outside the four walls of evangelical dogma.

If you’ve ever felt like you’re "getting it wrong" with God or wondered if there’s still a place for you in the Kingdom after divorce, doubt, and deconstruction, this episode is your permission slip to breathe.

Key Takeaways:

• Deconstruction ≠ Losing Faith. It’s not rebellion, it’s reconstruction. It’s spiritual adulthood. It’s what happens when you stop obeying blindly and start seeking bravely.
• Jesus Is Still Here. Even when your theology implodes and your church unfriends you. Especially then.
• Faith Isn’t Fragile. If asking honest questions makes your faith crumble, maybe it was more fear than faith to begin with.
• Slippery Slopes Are FUN. Turns out that “slippery slope” we were warned about? It leads to love, liberation, and disco dance parties with the Holy Spirit.

Read the full show notes and/or ask Natalie a question here

Related Resources:

• Flying Higher (https://joinflyinghigher.com) is my live mentorship program for Christian women pursuing increased confidence, emotional management, relational health and empowered self-development.
• Feel like a hot mess after divorce? This 5-Day Workshop will teach you a mind-shift tool to help you learn a powerful way to manage your thoughts and emotions in order to navigate adult decisions with clarity and peace. 
• Connect with Marie on her blog, Live Like it Matters, and website, Spiritual Direction with Marie. 
• Connect with Stacey and find all her resources on her Linktree. 
• Check out Diana’s podcast, The Renew Your Mind Podcast.

Is being "nice" to your ex keeping you stuck in his orbit? In this episode, my friend and fellow coach Diana Swillinger and I peel back the layers on everything related to your ex.

We tackle the sticky, icky, post-divorce drama: how to set boundaries, why you don't owe him or his people anything, and how to stay in your lane.

If you've ever wondered:

• Am I being mean for not giving a crap about his new wife?
• Is it bad to limit contact with his family?
• Should I let my kids like the girlfriend? (Um. You can’t stop them. Sorry.)
• Am I a monster for offering him the fine china after he got legally dubbed an abuser?

...then welcome. Pull up a chair. 

Laundry List of Scenarios We Cover: 

• When your ex still wants to be your BFF 
• When his mom keeps bringing up the marriage 
• When his new girlfriend is too nice and your kids love her 
• When his lawyer won’t quit 
• When triangulation sucks you in, and you need to say, “I’m out”

Read the full show notes and/or ask Natalie a question here

Related Resources:

• Flying Higher (https://joinflyinghigher.com) is my live mentorship program for Christian women pursuing increased confidence, emotional management, relational health and empowered self-development.
• Feel like a hot mess after divorce? This 5-Day Workshop will teach you a mind-shift tool to help you learn a powerful way to manage your thoughts and emotions in order to navigate adult decisions with clarity and peace. 
• Check out Diana’s website and explore some resources, listen to her podcast, The Renew Your Mind Podcast, and finally, connect with her on Facebook and Instagram.

Let’s be honest. If you've escaped from a destructive marriage, the idea of dating again might feel less like butterflies and more like plunging into shark-infested waters wearing a meat dress. 

But what if dating didn’t have to feel like impending doom? What if you could approach it with courage, confidence, and an actual strategy?

In this episode, I invited three of my friends and fellow coaches, Stacey Wynn, Diana Swillinger, and Marie Griffith to join me for a frank discussion about dating after divorce as a Christian woman.

Some Key Takeaways:

• Dating again? Terrifying. And also, you can do it!
• High standards are IT. You’re not picky. You’re just done with nonsense.
• Burn the haystack. Swipe left like it’s your sacred duty (thank you, Jennie Young).
• Polite is not required. Block. Burn. Bounce. Bless and release.
• Your gut is smarter than your mom, pastor, and therapist combined. Trust it.
• Emotions are dashboard lights, not detours. 

Read the full show notes and/or ask Natalie a question here

Related Resources:

• Flying Higher (https://joinflyinghigher.com) is my live mentorship program for Christian women pursuing increased confidence, emotional management, relational health and empowered self-development.
• Feel like a hot mess after divorce? This 5-Day Workshop will teach you a mind-shift tool to help you learn a powerful way to manage your thoughts and emotions in order to navigate adult decisions with clarity and peace. 
• Connect with Marie on her blog, Live Like it Matters, and website, Spiritual Direction with Marie. 
• Connect with Stacey and find all her resources on her Linktree. 
• Check out Diana’s podcast, The Renew Your Mind Podcast.
• And here are some resources we mentioned within the episode: the Burned Haystack Method by Jennie Young, the Dare to Lead List of Values from Brené Brown, the Personal Values Test, and the Personal Values Card Sort by Dr. Jennie Shields.

What if the person you're turning to for healing is actually keeping you stuck? (Cue dramatic music and flashbacks to church lady "counseling" that made you question your entire existence.)

Welcome to Season 2 of the Divorced Christian Woman Podcast! I’m kicking things off with my friend and fellow coach, Diana Swillinger. We’re diving headfirst into the sometimes-healing, sometimes-horrifying world of mentors, coaches, and therapists.

Not all helpers are created equal, my friend. And no, your cousin’s youth group leader who “feels called” to counsel probably isn’t qualified to help you unravel years of spiritual abuse.

This episode is your guide to sorting through the noise, finding the right kind of help for the season you're in, and learning how to trust your own gut again, especially after years of being told it was “deceitfully wicked.” (eye-roll)

What We Covered: 

• Mentors, coaches, therapists, and how to know the difference
• Red flags in helping relationships
• Green flags in helping relationships
• What to do if you believe you are “too broken” or “not broken enough”
• The process of healing
• How community plays a role in our healing

Read the full show notes and/or ask Natalie a question here

Related Resources:

• Flying Higher (https://joinflyinghigher.com) is my live mentorship program for Christian women pursuing increased confidence, emotional management, relational health and empowered self-development.
• Feel like a hot mess after divorce? This 5-Day Workshop will teach you a mind-shift tool to help you learn a powerful way to manage your thoughts and emotions in order to navigate adult decisions with clarity and peace. 
• Check out Diana’s website and explore some resources, listen to her podcast, The Renew Your Mind Podcast, and finally, connect with her on Facebook and Instagram.

Welcome to Season Two of the Christian Divorced Woman Podcast! This season, we'll be focusing on RELATIONSHIPS. Relationships with your kids, your ex, your friends, your family of origin, your colleagues, God, and even yourself. Join us as we dive deep into something that has a profound impact on our entire lives. Season two starts October 3, 2025. Subscribe to get notified when each new episode drops. 

Welcome to the final episode of Season One of The Divorced Christian Woman Podcast! If you’ve made it through the first 365 days post-divorce without stabbing anyone (including yourself), congratulations. You’re our people. 

In our finale I gather a roundtable of warrior women (Diana, Loretta, Lisa, and Marie) to talk about what comes after the ashes. (And it's NOT all sobbing into Häagen-Dazs while reading Leviticus. Haha)

What we talk about: 

• Finding yourself again (and realizing she’s kind of amazing)
• The joy of owning a dog (and a massage chair)
• Discovering that you’re capable of fixing doors, traveling alone, and hanging out with bears (on purpose)
• Reclaiming your space without needing anyone’s approval
• Forming deep, soul-filling friendships that you didn’t know were missing
• Letting go of the fear-based god to embrace the real one who’s been there all along
• Creating peaceful parenting vibes after the chaos of control

And by the way, wondering what’s coming in Season 2? We’re diving into relationships: with yourself, your kids (even the adult ones), your ex, your God, your church, and maybe that suspiciously hot barista who always remembers your name. Starts October 4, so mark your calendars.

Read the full show notes, get the journal questions, and/or ask Natalie a question here

Related Resources:

• Flying Higher (https://joinflyinghigher.com) is my personal mentorship program for Christian women pursuing increased confidence, emotional management, relational health and empowered self-development. Want to work with me? This is how!
• Feel like a hot mess after divorce? This 5-Day Workshop will teach you a mind-shift tool to help you learn a powerful way to manage your thoughts and emotions in order to navigate adult decisions with clarity and peace. 
• Connect with Marie on her blog, Live Like it Matters, and website, Spiritual Direction with Marie.
• Listen to Diana’s podcast, the Renew Your Mind Podcast. 
• Connect with Lisa at her Linktree.
• Contact Loretta at [email protected] 
• Check out a Flying Free Podcast episode, “How Christian Women Resist Oppression in Their Marriages.”

What if the emotions you're trying to keep at arm’s length (like grief and rage) are actually the very things that will set you free?

In this episode, I’m joined by my friend and fellow coach, Diana Swillinger. Today we’re talking about the emotional whirlwind that follows a divorce, especially for Christian women who were taught to be nice, stay quiet, and for the love of God, never get angry.

Well. We got angry. (And we’re still alive!)

If you’ve ever wondered:

• “Am I losing it, or is this rage normal?”
• “Why am I grieving when I wanted this divorce?”
• “Do I actually miss him...what the hell is wrong with me?”
• “What does forgiveness really mean if reconciliation isn’t safe?”

… then this episode is for you, my buffalo-hearted sister. (Yes, we talk about buffalo. And you’re gonna want one as your life mascot by the end.)

Read the full show notes, get the journal questions, and/or ask Natalie a question here

Related Resources:

• Flying Higher (https://joinflyinghigher.com) is my personal mentorship program for Christian women pursuing increased confidence, emotional management, relational health and empowered self-development. Want to work with me? This is how!
• Feel like a hot mess after divorce? This 5-Day Workshop will teach you a mind-shift tool to help you learn a powerful way to manage your thoughts and emotions in order to navigate adult decisions with clarity and peace. 
• Check out Diana’s podcast, The Renew Your Mind Podcast.
• Recommended books: Altogether You by Jenna Remiersma, No Bad Parts by Richard Schwartz, Forgiveness After Trauma by Susannah Griffith, Finding Meaning: the Sixth Stage of Grief by David Kessler, The Dance of Anger by Harriet Lerner, and All the Scary Little Gods by yours truly.