Here is Rob Lowe at his best: In this conversation with the guys, Lowe talks about his health obsessions new and old, from intermittent fasting to surfing, the Atkins diet, and the fitness instructors who bust his ass. He talks about the things he no longer feels compelled to do and how he’s learned to listen to his limits as he’s gotten older. Is he still competitive? Very—which he believes has helped him stay clean. And then there’s his family. Lowe talks about the big decisions he’s made as a father, how he thinks about raising good men, and what’s made his marriage work for nearly three decades. “If there’s any way to marry your best friend,” he says, “do it.”

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