By Josh Rosenthal, Runner
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How do trail runners survive in cities? Josh Rosenthal and Tommy Lewis dive into the challenges and rewards of maintaining a running lifestyle in urban environments.
They discuss the unique rhythms of road running compared to trail running, exploring how each offers different forms of joy and fulfillment. Tommy shares his journey from trail enthusiast to urban runner, emphasizing the importance of redefining what it means to be a runner beyond traditional races like marathons.
Together, they highlight the beauty of finding community, appreciating the outdoors, and embracing the daily practice of running, regardless of the terrain or distance.
Tommy Lewis took the dive and left his dayjob to lean all the way in on ThatsRunnable.com. He writes a brilliant weekly newlsetter and speaks to heart of runners like few others can.
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Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025
Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025
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Bad Runners Take is back again with Wolffrunner. Running Brand Ambassador relationships. We get it. But they don't always work out.
In this episode we run through it all calling out bad programs, celebrating good ones, soliciting some brands to build one.
Please take this 60 second survey about the podcast.
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Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025
Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025
VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.
PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.
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Matt Trappe recently started a Trail Running lifestyle brand called Auteur Sportif. He writes a brilliant substack (a Matter of Brand) celebrating running brands and their storytelling.
In this episode we celebrate the great brands and enjoy a brainstorm how to make the good ones better.
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Please take this survey for our upcoming app, wylder.
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Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025
Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025
VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.
PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.
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This podcast episode dives deep into the controversial culture surrounding DNFs (Did Not Finish) in ultra running, with hosts Brian and Josh discussing the social constructs and emotional weight attached to these outcomes.
Brian passionately argues that runners should be able to celebrate their efforts, regardless of whether they complete a race, pointing out the absurdity of labeling a significant distance as a failure.
The conversation expands to explore the pressures and expectations placed on amateur runners compared to elite athletes, highlighting the different motivations and mentalities in play.
Additionally, the hosts reflect on the implications of race metrics and how the ultra running community could evolve to better recognize the achievements of those who may not finish but still push their limits. With a mix of humor and serious reflection, the episode encourages listeners to reconsider how they perceive and react to DNFs in the sport.
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Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025
Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025
VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.
PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.
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In Episode 100 I introduced 4 songs along with their stories. In this episode I offer brief introduction and give you the music back to back without interuption.
I'm calling this music project CAVALE. And this group of songs is called 'Into the Virgin Desert'.
Again, thank you so much for listening and supporting.
The future looks bright. I can't wait to do the next 100 episodes.
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Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025
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Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025
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I wrote 4 songs of what I think midrace suffering sounds like.
On the occassion of episode 100, I am releasing them along with what inpsired them and this podcast.
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Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025
Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025
VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.
PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.
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In this episode we talk about articles by Marley for Canadian Running Magazine. In my opinion there is no better magazine on running news.
The latest episode of the Borderlands Trail podcast dives deep into the complexities of recent stories in the running world, including a significant discussion on the implications of using pacers in marathon races, highlighted by Ruth Chepngetich's record-setting performance in Chicago.
Host Josh Rosenthal and journalist Marley Dickinson explore how the use of pacers can alter the nature of competition, raising questions about authenticity and strategy in elite races. The conversation also touches on the ongoing saga surrounding Camille Herron and the fallout from her recent controversies, as well as a scandal involving a Russian airline used for a major marathon event.
The duo examines the broader implications for athletes and the sport, including the potential for increased scrutiny and the ethics of competitive running. As they unpack these narratives, listeners are invited to consider what defines true competition in the world of athletics.
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Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025
Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025
VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.
PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.
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Hoka is directly repsonsible for much of the exponential growth of trail running.
The Best Hoka Running Shoes Right Now.
Josh Rosenthal and Taylor Bodin (Lead Trail Reviewer, Believe in the Run) dive deep into the world of HOKA, a brand that has revolutionized trail and ultra running with its innovative footwear.
They discuss how HOKA emerged during a time dominated by minimalist trends, introducing a maximalist approach that has reshaped expectations in the running community.
Taylor shares insights about the evolution of HOKA's shoe technology, including the introduction of high stack cushioning and rocker designs that enhance performance. The conversation highlights the brand’s impressive growth, underscored by their recent success in exceeding sales projections, and its impact on the broader trail running landscape.
Throughout their discussion, Josh and Taylor emphasize HOKA's commitment to the running community, showcasing how the brand continues to engage with athletes and enthusiasts alike.
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Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025
Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025
VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.
PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.
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Today on Bad Runners Take:
Josh Rosenthal and Brian Peterson dive into these questions as they explore the growing prominence of these long-distance events.
They discuss the implications for elite athletes like Courtney Dauwalter, who is preparing for Cocodona 250, and how such races might shift focus away from traditional 100-mile competitions.
The conversation also touches on the culture of volunteerism in the sport, particularly in relation to profitable races, and the balance between community support and financial gain.
As the two navigate these topics, they reflect on their own running experiences and the evolving landscape of trail and ultra running.
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Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025
Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025
VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.
PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.
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Cirque Series is a brilliant mountain race with distances between 6 and 9 miles. But don't be fooled ultrarunners. Cirque races are hard as hell, straight up the gut of big mountains and right back down.
The starting line is a party.
The finish line is a party.
In this episode I welcome the founder and race director, Julian Carr.
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In this conversation, Josh and Julian discuss the evolution of ultra trail running, focusing on the Cirque Series and its unique approach to inclusivity and race production.
They explore the importance of creating a fun and engaging atmosphere at races, overcoming skepticism from the traditional trail running community, and the significance of high production value in enhancing the overall experience for runners.
In this conversation, Julian discusses the evolution of trail running events, emphasizing the importance of a rewarding experience for participants. He reflects on the challenges of creating a unique atmosphere that transcends traditional trail running, while also addressing the scalability of his event series and the significance of community engagement and sponsorship.
The discussion highlights the cultural movement of trail running in the U.S. and the potential for storytelling to enhance the experience for both elite and amateur runners.
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Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races - May 31
VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.
PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.
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