At Work with The Ready

Brave New Work 75. When the CEO Fires Themselves with Michael Bungay Stanier and Shannon Minifie


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Let's talk about succession. No, not the show, but the concept. How do progressive, human-centric organizations deal with succession, and role changes, and new management, all while maintaining a high level of success?


In this episode of Brave New Work, Aaron Dignan and Rodney Evans talk to Michael Bungay Stanier and Shannon Minifie of Box of Crayons—about Michael stepping down and handing the reins of the organization to Shannon, the roadblocks the transition ran into, and how to go about it all without rocking the boat.


Learn more about Shannon on LinkedIn, on Youtube, or by visiting Box of Crayons.


Learn more about Michael on LinkedIn, on Youtube, or from listening to his previous episode of Brave New Work about 1:1s.


Mentioned references:

  • Bruce Springsteen
  • E Street Band
  • ABBA
  • "Hotel California"
  • Coaching Habit, by Michael Bungay Stanier
  • Fierce Conversations, by Susan Scott
  • "participatory governance": BNW Ep. 43

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