January 17, 2025

California Burning: Wildfires, Climate, and Communities with Pete Deneen

57 minutes

In this episode of the Free Outside podcast, I’m joined by Pete Deneen, a climate scientist, award-winning writer, and the Chief Executive of the Keep Sespe Wild Foundation. Together, we dive into the wildfires that have devastated California, including the recent LA firestorm, one of the most costly and destructive disasters in U.S. history.

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Pete brings his deep knowledge of climate science and his personal experience living in the fire-prone Sespe wilderness to the conversation. We break down what makes these fires so intense, the factors fueling them, and the role of climate change in doubling extreme fire weather days. From the science behind Santa Ana winds to the surprising impacts of fire retardants like Foscheck, this episode is packed with insights you won’t find in headlines.

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We also explore the balance between living with fire and managing it, and the importance of community, conservation, and education in protecting our wildlands. Whether you’re an outdoor enthusiast, a trail runner, or just curious about the forces shaping our environment, this conversation will leave you thinking differently about fire, nature, and how we live in these landscapes.

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takeaways

-California wildfires are among the most destructive in U.S. history.

-The interplay of wet and dry years significantly affects fire risks.

-Santa Ana winds can exacerbate wildfire conditions.

-Climate change has increased the frequency of fire weather days.

-Defensible space around homes is crucial for fire survival.

-Foscheck is a useful tool in firefighting but has environmental impacts.

-Post-fire recovery can lead to ecological resilience in certain areas.

-Community engagement is vital for effective fire management.

-Misconceptions about wildfires often oversimplify complex issues.

-Nonprofits play a key role in environmental education and stewardship.

Sound Bites

"These areas have evolved to burn."

"Foscheck is an effective tool."

"We have to coexist with fire."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Wildfires in California

04:57 Current Situation of the Fires

07:32 Factors Contributing to Fire Risk

12:34 Understanding Santa Ana Winds

18:02 Fire Spread and Containment Challenges

21:32 Impact of Firefighting Techniques

25:52 Post-Fire Recovery and Environmental Impact

31:02 Future Mitigation and Prevention Strategies

32:46 Coexisting with Nature: A Journey with Native Plants

32:51 Hardening Communities Against Wildfires

33:27 Understanding Historical Fire Regimes

38:21 The Era of Fire Suppression and Its Consequences

39:53 Predictive Tools for Fire Awareness

43:52 Debunking Misconceptions About Wildfires

50:32 The Role of Nonprofits in Conservation and Education

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