In this episode Michelle chats with Callum Jacobs, author of Road Runner: Surviving on the Urban Trails.

Michelle and Callum chat about:

- urban versus trail running

- how city running can inspire as much awe as the mountains

- sightseeing on the run

- running the London Underground, overground

- place hacking

You can follow Callum on Instagram:

 https://www.instagram.com/the_urban_trailrunner