For decades, the dominant message in recovery has been clear: quit completely, or fail.

But what if there’s another way?

Journalist, author, and podcast host Katie Herzog joins Running Free to discuss her new book, Drink Your Way Sober—a deeply personal and well-researched look into The Sinclair Method, a medication-assisted approach that helps people reduce or eliminate alcohol without white-knuckling abstinence.

Katie blends memoir and reporting to challenge long-held assumptions about addiction and recovery, including her own. In this conversation, she and Jesse dig into how naltrexone, neuroscience, and harm reduction are helping thousands rewrite their relationship with alcohol—quietly, effectively, and without shame.

We discuss:

• What The Sinclair Method is—and why so few people know about it

• Why complete abstinence isn’t the only path to recovery

• How trauma, compulsion, and biology intersect in addiction

• Katie’s personal story and why she believes this message matters now more than ever

• How we can bridge the gap between traditional recovery and science-based innovation

This episode is for anyone questioning alcohol, looking for options, or ready to think differently about what recovery can look like.

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