What starts as a story about a kid from Utah with a promising football career ends somewhere nobody saw coming — including Chad himself.

Growing up in Utah, Chad was the guy with a future. Athletics, ambition, a clear path forward. Then a knee injury in high school changed everything. What started as pain management turned into something much harder to put down. Weed and ecstasy in high school gave way to pain pills after the injury, and once that door opened, Chad walked through it fast.

He dropped out of high school. Got into door to door sales. Found ways to fund a life that was quietly unraveling. The escalating drug use brought escalating problems, including criminal activity that started stacking consequences he couldn't outrun.

A move to California was supposed to be the reset. It didn't quite work out that way, but it did lead him to the woman who would become the mother of his child. They moved back to Utah together, and Chad kept trying to get it together. He couldn't. The relationship didn't survive it.

And then came the moment that actually broke through.

Separation from his daughter.

That was the thing that reached him where nothing else could. Chad made the decision to move back to California, and this time something was different. He found lasting sobriety in 2024 and hasn't looked back. Today he works alongside his brother at Sacred Journey Men's Recovery Center, turning everything he lived through into something that helps other men find their way out.

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What starts as an Adderall pill shared in a high school hallway on Long Island doesn't look like the beginning of a story about psychosis. But for McKenna, that's exactly what it was.

In this episode, we sit down with McKenna Mangan - soon-to-be mom, wife, entrepreneur, and woman with over three years of sobriety — to trace the long and winding road from her ambitious beginnings to her most devastating lows, and ultimately to a life she never could have imagined for herself.

McKenna was doing everything "right." She graduated from Fordham University, landed a coveted finance role on Wall Street, and had every box checked on paper. But underneath the success, what had started as casual Adderall use in high school had quietly grown into a full-blown dependency — one that Wall Street's pressure-cooker culture only accelerated. When the jobs disappeared, McKenna found herself back on Long Island with her addiction running the show, cycling through toxic and abusive relationships, and spiraling further from the woman she once was.

The turning point came in the form of a two-month psychosis — a terrifying rock bottom that finally opened the door to real change.

Now on the other side, McKenna shares how treatment didn't just save her life — it completely redirected it. Through connections made in recovery, she discovered a surprising new career path she never saw coming, one that lights her up in ways Wall Street never did. Today, she's building a business, a marriage, and a family, all rooted in the clarity that only sobriety can bring.

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What started as a small number of compassionate professionals has grown into one of the nation’s most respected luxury treatment centers. But growth has never meant losing sight of what matters most—the individual engaging with our therapists, one-on-one, taking the courageous first step toward healing.From the beginning, we understood that truly transformative treatment requires more than clinical protocols. It demands a personalized approach, led by the most qualified professionals, in an environment that nurtures the whole person. That’s why we’ve assembled a team where every primary therapist holds a Doctorate in Psychology - a distinction virtually unmatched in our field.Check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Seasons Malibu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ online or call 1-866-314-5160 for more information.

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What happens when a University of Chicago-trained psychologist spends three years at Stanford's bipolar disorders clinic, deploys to four war zones with the Navy, works counterterrorism intelligence with the LA Sheriff's Department - and then lands in a Malibu addiction treatment center asking patients one simple question: where does it hurt?

Dr. Matthew Schumacher joins me for a wide-ranging conversation about the science of addiction, the biology of balance, and why some of the most powerful tools for recovery are also the oldest ones. From dopamine fasting to behavioral activation to the underrated magic of a social routine, Dr. Schumacher breaks down what actually moves the needle - whether you're in a luxury treatment center in Malibu or sitting at home trying to figure out your next step.

Reasons You Need to Hear This:

1. There's a specific reason your brain craves constant noise — and Dr. Schumacher explains exactly what's happening biologically when you can't turn it off, and what that has to do with why substances feel so necessary in the first place.
2. There's a decades-old treatment for depression that nobody talks about — not a medication, not a complex therapy, not a $300 supplement.
3. Your daily routine might be doing more damage than you realize — Dr. Schumacher breaks down the surprising biological link between the rhythm of your day and the stability of your mood, and why this might be the most overlooked piece of long-term recovery.
4. The thing your body is actually trying to feel when it reaches for a substance — it turns out nature already built the answer in. Dr. Schumacher explains what it is and how to start accessing it again, especially when you feel like nothing else brings you pleasure anymore.
5. The question he asks every single patient in their first session — it's not what you'd expect from someone with his level of training, and the reason he starts there will genuinely make you rethink what healing actually requires.
6. There's a free, research-backed tool for anxiety that's been around since the 1960s — most people have never tried it because it sounds too simple. Dr. Schumacher makes the case for why simple might be exactly what's needed.
7. If you've been to treatment before and it didn't stick, this episode explains why and it has everything to do with what was - and wasn't - being treated while you were there.

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What started as a small number of compassionate professionals has grown into one of the nation’s most respected luxury treatment centers. But growth has never meant losing sight of what matters most—the individual engaging with our therapists, one-on-one, taking the courageous first step toward healing.From the beginning, we understood that truly transformative treatment requires more than clinical protocols. It demands a personalized approach, led by the most qualified professionals, in an environment that nurtures the whole person. That’s why we’ve assembled a team where every primary therapist holds a Doctorate in Psychology - a distinction virtually unmatched in our field.Check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Seasons Malibu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ online or call 1-866-314-5160 for more information.

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Dana grew up between New Jersey and New York City with a Vietnam vet father who struggled with heroin addiction. After moving to California, building a career as a celebrity hairstylist, and starting a family, everything fell apart when a back injury led to an opiate prescription. Within months she was buying pills off the street, and eventually that turned into a years-long heroin and meth addiction that cost her her marriage, her career, and nearly her children.

In this episode Dana talks about using while pregnant, discovering she was six months along in an emergency room, losing custody of her youngest son to CPS, and spending years cycling through rehabs while still finding ways to get high inside them. She also shares what it took to finally get sober, the three-year legal battle to get her son back, and how she rebuilt her life, her relationships with her kids, and her own business from nothing. Eight years later, she credits her faith as the thing that carried her through all of it.

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If you’ve ever wondered why you can know exactly what’s ruining your life and still keep going back to it anyway, this episode may completely change the way you understand addiction, anxiety, trauma, and even your own personality.

In this deeply eye-opening conversation, Dr. Q explains that addiction is often not about pleasure or self-destruction at all. It’s about survival. More specifically, it’s about a nervous system trying desperately to regulate itself.

Drawing from her experience working in methadone clinics, her doctoral research, and polyvagal theory, Dr. Q breaks down how different substances can serve different emotional and neurological functions. Why some people are drawn to stimulants like cocaine or meth, why others gravitate toward heroin or alcohol, and why many people cycle between uppers and downers depending on what emotional state they’re trying to escape, numb, or control.

Most importantly, this episode gives listeners practical, actionable tools to start regulating their nervous system without substances:

Dr. Quenicka, better known as “Dr. Q,” is a clinical psychologist specializing in addiction, trauma, emotional resiliency, and nervous system regulation. Born and raised in Indonesia, Dr. Q moved to the United States as a young adult, went on to graduate with honors from UCLA, earned three master’s degrees, and received her Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology from Fielding Graduate University.

Her research in neuropsychology has been published in multiple academic journals, and her clinical work focuses on helping people heal through self-compassion, empowerment, cultural understanding, and hope. With experience ranging from severe mental illness and brain injury treatment to women’s intensive outpatient recovery programs, Dr. Q brings both deep expertise and extraordinary warmth to the conversation.

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Built on Compassion, Driven by Excellence

What started as a small number of compassionate professionals has grown into one of the nation’s most respected luxury treatment centers. But growth has never meant losing sight of what matters most—the individual engaging with our therapists, one-on-one, taking the courageous first step toward healing.

From the beginning, we understood that truly transformative treatment requires more than clinical protocols. It demands a personalized approach, led by the most qualified professionals, in an environment that nurtures the whole person. That’s why we’ve assembled a team where every primary therapist holds a Doctorate in Psychology - a distinction virtually unmatched in our field.

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From USC walk-on to cartel middleman to federal inmate rebuilding his life one project at a time, this episode with Owen Hanson feels less like a crime story and more like a masterclass in what happens when ambition runs without guardrails.

Known as “The California Kid” and “The Cocaine Quarterback,” Owen shares how a relentless drive for success first showed up on the football field at USC before spiraling into steroid use, smuggling, and eventually laundering millions in drug money tied to the cartel. What started with crossing the border to move steroids from Mexico evolved into a world of massive debt, high stakes pressure, and organized crime that ultimately led to a federal RICO indictment and a 21-year prison sentence in 2015.

But this conversation isn’t just about the rise and fall. It’s about what happened after the collapse.

While incarcerated, Owen refused to let prison become dead time. Instead, he turned it into a strange kind of laboratory for reinvention, earning his master’s degree, writing a book, creating his business, Ice Protein, and even starring in a docuseries produced with Mark Wahlberg.

Owen’s story is chaotic, unbelievable, and at times cinematic, but underneath all of it is a deeper message: your lowest point does not have to be wasted time. Sometimes the same intensity that destroys a life can also rebuild one.

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Somewhere between carne asada, french fries, and a paper-wrapped tortilla the size of a newborn meteor ☄️🌯… a spiritual awakening happened.

For years, I thought the California burrito that changed my life was just a random late-night meal. But looking back, it became the moment everything cracked open: presence, connection, gratitude, awe. Not because of the burrito itself, but because for a few rare minutes, my brain stopped fighting reality.

In this episode, we unpack the surprisingly deep science behind spiritual experiences through the work of neuroscientist Dr. Andrew Newberg, a pioneer in the field of neurotheology, who studies what actually happens in the brain during prayer, meditation, and moments of transcendence.

Dr. Newberg’s brain imaging research on meditating Buddhist monks and praying Franciscan nuns found that spiritual experiences aren’t imaginary or confined to some mythical “God spot” in the brain. Instead, they activate an interconnected network involving emotion, focus, meaning, and even the parts of the brain responsible for our sense of physical boundaries. During deep spiritual states, activity in the parietal lobe decreases, helping explain that feeling of oneness, timelessness, or dissolving into the moment itself.

But the real goal of this episode is practical: helping listeners identify the elements of their own past spiritual experiences, whether those moments came through nature, music, heartbreak, recovery, prayer, surfing, love, silence… or even a California burrito. Because Dr. Newberg’s research suggests that intentionally cultivating these experiences can help people become less anxious, less depressed, and ultimately get “unstuck.”

This episode is about addiction, neuroscience, transcendence, french fries in burritos, and the possibility that sometimes grace arrives disguised as takeout.

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Drew’s story sounds less like a straight line and more like a lit fuse. Raised mostly in Utah, what started as early oxy use quickly escalated into heroin, methadone, benzos, and a life built around the chaos of selling drugs. But selling soon bled into something darker: robbing local heroin dealers at gunpoint, high-speed car chases, police raids, and eventually fleeing to California while living fully on the run.

In California, the hustle only evolved. Pills moved online through Silk Road, bitcoin fortunes disappeared almost as fast as they came, ketamine entered the picture, and rapid detoxes became desperate attempts to outrun addiction without ever truly surrendering to recovery. Through all of it, Drew lived at full speed until a few serious injuries and and dark moments afterward finally forced him to confront what decades of chaos had cost him.

Now sober since 2021, Drew has rebuilt his life from the ashes of addiction and violence. Today, he owns a men’s mental health and substance use treatment center Sacred Journey, in San Diego and lives deeply rooted in a program of recovery. In this episode, Drew shares one of the wildest stories we’ve ever had on the podcast, but underneath the insanity is something even more powerful: proof that even the most self-destructive life can be rebuilt into one centered on purpose, service, and freedom.

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After addiction, divorce, losing a career, or any season that leaves life looking like a house after a storm, self-esteem can feel less “broken” and more…evaporated. In this episode, I am giving you three free, practical ways to rebuild confidence without needing a total life makeover, a 5 a.m. ice bath, or a personality transplant.

We get into why keeping tiny promises to yourself matters more than giant goals, how helping other people quietly repairs the way you see yourself, and how you can make any environment work for you. Whether you’re newly sober, starting over after heartbreak, or just trying to feel like yourself again, this episode is about rebuilding self-worth brick by brick instead of waiting for lightning to strike.

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After walking away from football, Dan Brody felt like he had lost the identity that had defined him for years. What started as partying and social connection slowly evolved from alcohol and weed into ecstasy, cocaine, and eventually oxy’s. An overdose in his childhood bedroom became the moment that changed everything.

In this episode, Dan shares the psychological vacuum that can follow the loss of purpose, structure, and tribe, especially for athletes and high performers. He opens up about why substances initially felt less like escape and more like belonging, and how recovery in Los Angeles helped him rebuild a life rooted in connection instead of chaos.

Today, Dan is the SVP of Membership at The Maze, a membership-based social club in Manhattan designed around a radical idea: people deserve meaningful community that doesn’t revolve around alcohol. From movie nights and live events to notable speakers and a top-tier culinary program, The Maze is creating a social ecosystem where sobriety feels expansive instead of restrictive.

This conversation explores identity loss, addiction, recovery, fatherhood, community, and the growing movement toward substance-free connection in a culture that often confuses drinking with living. It’s a story about discovering that the thing many people are actually searching for is not the substance itself, but the feeling of being seen.

Today's episode is brought to you by ⁠⁠⁠⁠Seasons ⁠⁠⁠in Malibu. We are excited to share that graduates of Seasons Malibu will now receive six months of membership to The Maze, Manhattan’s premier sober social club.

It’s something we are incredibly proud of because recovery doesn’t end at discharge. Real community, meaningful connection, and having a place to belong matter deeply, especially in early sobriety. The Maze has created a space where people can build friendships, find purpose, and experience New York City without needing to revolve around alcohol or drugs.

For over 18 years, Seasons has been a sanctuary for individuals seeking to reclaim their lives from addiction and mental health challenges. Our story began with a simple but profound vision: To create a luxurious sanctuary for individuals struggling with addiction or mental health issues, where they can receive the finest, evidence-based treatment in the world.

Built on Compassion, Driven by Excellence

What started as a small number of compassionate professionals has grown into one of the nation’s most respected luxury treatment centers. But growth has never meant losing sight of what matters most—the individual engaging with our therapists, one-on-one, taking the courageous first step toward healing.

From the beginning, we understood that truly transformative treatment requires more than clinical protocols. It demands a personalized approach, led by the most qualified professionals, in an environment that nurtures the whole person. That’s why we’ve assembled a team where every primary therapist holds a Doctorate in Psychology - a distinction virtually unmatched in our field.

Check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠Seasons Malibu⁠⁠⁠⁠ online or call 1-866-314-5160 for more information.

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