Curious Minds at Work

CM 056: Mahzarin Banaji On The Hidden Biases Of Good People


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Do good people discriminate more often than they think? That is exactly what a team of researchers found when they analyzed the thoughts and reactions of millions of people around the world.  
Harvard University Professor of Social Ethics, Mahzarin Banaji, author of the book, Blindspot: Hidden Biases of Good People, shares surprising findings from Implicit Association Tests taken by over 18 million people from over 30 countries. What she reveals may surprise you.
Banaji is the recipient of fellowships from the Guggenheim and Rockefeller Foundations, as well as the Radcliffe and Santa Fe Institutes. She and her co-author Anthony Greenwald, Professor at Washington University, have spent their careers uncovering the hidden biases we all carry when it comes to issues like race, gender, age, and socioeconomics.
In this interview, we talk about:
How knowing our blindspots can help us innovate
How we can measure the extent of our biases with the Implicit Association Test
How the implicit association test can launch a dialogue around bias
Who we say is American versus who we really believe is American
How our tendency is to be curious and to want to learn about ourselves
How much we want to know is a measure of our smart we are
The role competition and social knowledge play in motivation to learn and grow
Why we need to get beyond learning about it to doing something about it
The importance of what we are willing to do to address our biases
Knowledge of bias helps us rethink hiring, law, admissions, medicine, and more
Bias in our minds hurts us, too
The fact that implicit bias starts as young as 6 years old
Disappointing differences in explicit vs implicit love of our ethnic or racial group
What is not associated with our groups in society gets dropped from our identities
Bias and discrimination can come from who we help
How referral programs can reinforce bias and lack of diversity
A tip on how to ensure referral programs cultivate diversity
The fact that we all like beautiful people and how that harms us
Ways to outsmart our biases
What symphony orchestras can teach us about overcoming bias in hiring
The fact that good people can and do have bias
How we will be perceived by future generations if we can address our biases
Whether Mahzarin likes science fiction
Episode Links
@banaji
http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~banaji/
Anthony Greenwald
Implicit Association Test
Fitbit
Inclusion Conference 2016
What Works by Iris Bohnet
Social imprinting
Group identity
Stanley Milgram
Abu Ghraib
My Lai Massacre
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