Coach TJ discusses his experience running the Western States 100-mile race and shares insights on racing in hot conditions, managing downhill sections, changing shoes, using ice bandanas, fueling strategies, and the use of saunas for race preparation. In this conversation, Zoë and TJ discuss various aspects of racing and pacing in ultramarathons, specifically focusing on their experience at the Western States Endurance Run. They cover topics such as changing shirts during a race, using handhelds versus vests, the importance of pacers, and the start-stop-continue approach to race debriefs. They also highlight the significance of ice as a cooling strategy and the need for a long-term training plan for Western States. Overall, they emphasize the importance of preparation, having a supportive crew, and enjoying the unique aspects of the race.